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Barbarians name Marchant as one of three more players to face ABs

(Photo by Will Russell/The RFU Collection via Getty Images)

Joe Marchant has become the latest out-of-favour England player to accept an invitation from the Barbarians to join their squad for the November 13 match in London versus an All Blacks XV, a game that will be followed by a clash with his own Harlequins team four days later on November 17.

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The England utility has agreed to join up with the Scott Roberston/Ronan O’Gara-coached Baa-Baas, who had earlier named Joe Marler – Marchant’s club and country colleague – as part of their squad after he was also omitted from Eddie Jones’ national team pick.

Marchant was one of three squad additions confirmed on Tuesday by the Barbarians, who also included John Ryan, the ex-Wasps prop who took up a short-term deal this week at Munster after his Gallagher Premiership club collapsed, while O’Gara’s La Rochelle influence has resulted in Teddy Thomas of France getting a call.

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A Barbarians statement read: “Three more international stars will join up with Barbarian FC ahead of the Killik Cup against All Blacks XV on Sunday, November 13. England’s Joe Marchant, Ireland’s John Ryan and France’s Teddy Thomas are set to run out for the famous invitational club to take on a New Zealand side packed with high-profile names.

“Harlequins’ Joe Marchant, who has made 13 appearances in England shirt, makes his Barbarians debut and will know what to expect after facing the Baa-Baas for an England XV in 2019.

“Prop John Ryan will stop off in London en route back to Ireland to join the Barbarians, fulfilling a career dream… The last of today’s confirmed players, Teddy Thomas, will be joining his Stade Rochelais head coach Ronan O’Gara in the Barbarians after moving to Les Maritimes from Top 14 rivals Racing 92.

“Popular loosehead prop Joe Marler is another huge name to make his return to the Barbarians alongside Zach Mercer (England and Montpellier), George Bridge (New Zealand and Crusaders), Camille Chat (France and Racing 92) and Josua Tuisova (Fiji and Lyon), with more big names from the world of rugby to be announced in the coming days.

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“Battling for the Killik Cup, the Barbarians will go up against a very strong All Blacks XV team, with Auckland and Blues lock Patrick Tuipulotu captaining the side alongside a host of well-known names. The visiting side has eight players with Test experience – Tuipulotu, Aidan Ross, Angus Ta’avao, Asafo Aumua, Luke Jacobson, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, and Damian McKenzie.”

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fl 2 hours ago
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“Why do you downplay his later career, post 50? He won a treble less than two years ago, with a club who played more games and won more games than any other team that managed the same feat. His crowning achievement - by his own admission.”

He’s won many trebles in his career - why do you only care about one of them?

I think its unsurprising that he’d feel more emotional about his recent achievements, but its less clear why you do.


“Is it FA cups or League cups you’re forgetting in his English trophy haul? You haven’t made that clear…”

It actually was clear, if you knew the number he had won of each, but I was ignoring the league cup, because Germany and Spain only have one cup competition so it isn’t possible to compare league cup performance with City to his performance with Bayern and Barcelona.


“With Barcelona he won 14 trophies. With Bayern Munich he won 5 trophies. With City he has currently won 18 trophies…”

I can count, but clearly you can’t divide! He was at Barca for 4 years, so that’s 3.5 trophies per year. He was at Bayern for 3 years, and actually won 7 trophies so that’s 2.3 trophies per year. He has been at City for 8 completed seasons so that’s 2.25 trophies per year. If in his 9th season (this one) he wins both the FA cup and the FIFA club world cup that will take his total to 20 for an average of 2.22 trophies per year.


To be clear - you said that Pep had gotten better with age by every metric. In fact by most metrics he has gotten worse!

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fl 4 hours ago
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“He made history beyond the age of 50. History.”

He made history before the age of 50, why are you so keen to downplay Pep’s early career achievements? In 2009 he won the sextuple. No other manager in history had achieved that, and Pep hasn’t achieved it since, but here you are jizzing your pants over a couple of CL finals.


“If continuing to break records and achieve trophies isn't a metric for success”

Achieving trophies is a metric for success, and Pep wins fewer trophies as he gets older.


“He's still competing for a major trophy this year. Should he get it, it would be 8 consecutive seasons with a major trophy. Then the world club cup in the summer.”

You’re cherry picking some quite odd stats now. In Pep’s first 8 seasons as a manager he won 6 league titles, 2 CL titles, & 4 cup titles. In Pep’s last 8 seasons as a manager (including this one) he’s won 6 league titles, 1 CL title, & 2 (or possibly 3) cup titles. In his first 8 seasons he won the FIFA world club cup 3 times; in his last 8 seasons he’s won it 1 (or possibly soon to be 2) time(s). In his first 8 seasons he won the UEFA super cup 3 times; in his last 8 he won the UEFA super cup once. His record over the past 8 seasons has been amazing - but it is a step down from his record in his first 8 seasons, and winning the FA cup and FIFA club world cup this summer won’t change that.


Pep is still a brilliant manager. He will probably remain a brilliant manager for many years to come, but you seem to want to forget how incredible he was when he first broke through. To be clear - you said that Pep had gotten better with age by every metric. That was false!

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