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Borthwick not immune from the sack but it’s time for positivity – Andy Goode

Steve Borthwick, Head Coach of England talks to the media following a training session at Stade Ferdinand Petit on September 04, 2023 in Le Touquet-Paris-Plage, France. England will face Argentina in their first Rugby World Cup France 2023 match on September 9, 2023. (Photo by Dan Mullan/Getty Images)

I’m not buying that Steve Borthwick is immune from the sack regardless of the performance at this World Cup but this should be a time for optimism and England need to seize the opportunity to turn the tide of negativity.

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It’s absolutely fair to suggest change at the top might be needed if England crash out in the pool stages rather than starting the tournament with the idea that he’s going to remain in situ irrespective of how the team fares in France, as has been intimated.

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The reality is, of course, that it will all depend on the details of the five-year deal he signed after £1 million was spent by the RFU to buy him out of his Leicester contract and install him as head coach and whether specific clauses were inserted.

It’s already reasonable to question the lack of experience in the coaching group as a whole and if things were to go south, I think the addition of an experienced Rassie Erasmus-style figure would be warranted at the very least.

The fact this is even being discussed on the eve of England’s opening game of the tournament shows just how bad their form has been. The most defeats the national team has ever suffered in a calendar year is eight and they’ve already lost six in 2023.

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A couple of stodgy wins over Wales and a ground out victory against Italy are all Borthwick has to show for his efforts so far but he and his players will know that one win can change everything, especially when it’s in the first game of a World Cup.

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Borthwick was a player back in 2007 when England lost three of their four fixtures in the summer prior to the World Cup, on the back of losing to Wales and Ireland in the Six Nations, and there are some real parallels between that team and this one.

We all know how that turned out with England rallying to reach the final and, with a kind draw, there’s no reason they can’t make the semi-finals at least this time around and then who knows what might happen.

Momentum is huge in sport and they have none at all right now but a win over the Pumas and that can build quickly before the knockout stages, defeat and the pressure will hit epic levels for the Japan game.

Given that context and the weather conditions, I wouldn’t expect much free-flowing rugby in Marseille and it’ll be a cagey affair with whoever comes out on top in an attritional forward battle likely to prevail.

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Argentina are favourites, they’re ranked higher and beat England at Twickenham last November but England have more caps in their squad than any other team in the tournament and they need to draw on that experience and the memory of 2019.

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Elliot Daly, Manu Tuilagi, Jonny May, George Ford, Jamie George, Dan Cole, Maro Itoje, Courtney Lawes, Tom Curry and Joe Marler have all played in a World Cup final and some of those big names have gone missing in recent times but now is the time to stand up and be counted.

The fact that May and Alex Mitchell start is a major talking point given they weren’t even named in the initial 33-man squad but I think you have to applaud Borthwick for reacting to the poor displays and not just sticking with the same formula.

Mitchell’s inclusion from the off could be key as he offers pace that the other scrum halves don’t and can play with an intensity that has the potential to make a major difference, if he’s allowed to play his normal game.

Add Tom Curry’s return to that and there are a couple of glimmers of hope. He might not have played since May because of an ankle injury but he’s a Test match animal and will give the team a lift in defence and attack.

The bench is going to play a massive role given the heat and England might just have the edge there. If it’s tight and players are tiring, there aren’t many better players to bring on and exploit gaps than Marcus Smith but I’d want to see him doing so from fly half not full back.

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Marcus Smith of England looks on during a training session at Stade Ferdinand Petit on September 01, 2023 in Le Touquet-Paris-Plage, France. England will face Argentina in their first Rugby World Cup France 2023 match on September 9, 2023. (Photo by Dan Mullan/Getty Images)

There may not have been any actual evidence to inspire confidence thus far in the Borthwick era but he’s building from a low base after the back end of the Eddie Jones era saw players playing with fear and unable to express themselves.

It might seem like clutching at straws but the current crop of players are doing their best to portray a happy camp and the start of the biggest tournament of all might just provide the impetus for a sudden improvement.

Nobody wants to be reading headlines about the head coach’s future before the competition is even underway, it’s time for positivity and we might just look back on the Pumas in Marseille as the tipping point in England’s turnaround. I’m going for England by three.

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AC 677 days ago

Potentially scorching hot take here. I think both England & Australia are being underestimated, including by their own supporters.


I support England, and Boks are my pick to win it all in a repeat. But I think England & Aussie will out perform expectations.

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RJ 677 days ago

I'm really not a fan of this England team, the way they are set up to play. But I think it's only fair that he gets 12 months after the WC to start to build the team in his own image... If we see progress then he can carry on, if not the new coach gets 3 years to work before the next WC.

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MB 677 days ago

I agree. There is so much trouble throughout rugby in England, that I'd like to see the RFU respond with a root to branches overhaul. However, it seems unlikely that they (or the Premiership) will take responsibility for performance over recent times. Firing the coach would be a more likely, as it would make them look like they were doing something, without actually doing something.

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TWAS 14 minutes ago
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I’m sorry but this just seems like incredibly selective analysis attempting to blame all team failures on JAS.


Looking through the examples:


Example 1 - long place by JAS, all support overruns the ruck. Pilfer also achieved by a player resting his arms on JAS - so should be a penalty for of his feet anyway. No failure by JAS there failing to secure the ball. By his team mates, yes.


Example 2 - a knock on punched out by the first defender who’s tackle he initially beat, from behind. An error by JAS absolutely. But every player makes the odd handling error.


Example 3 - JAS just beaten to the ruck because defender shoots to make a good tackle He passes and immediately follows. Potentially should have been a penalty to Aus because the tackler had not released and swung around into JAS’s path preventing him securing the ball, and had not released when the jackal went for the pilfer. Tackler prevented a clean release by Potter and if there was any failure, it was the ball carrier who got into a horrible position.


I am struggling how you try and blame 1 on JAS and not support, but then blame JAS when the tackler fails to make a good placement.


Example 4 - JAS flies into this ruck out of nowhere, seemingly runs past the 12 to get there. Also did you miss McReight and Williams just jogging and letting JAS run past them? Anyway he busts a get to get there but was beaten to the contest. Any failure here is on the supporting players, McReight and Williams and JAS showed great instinct to charge in to try and secure.


Example 5 - JAS is following the lead of players inside him. How this is his fault I don’t know what you are thinking


Example 6 - Gleeson misses a tackle so JAS has to drift in off his man to take the ball carrier, leaving a larger overlap when he offloads. Failure by Gleeson not JAS


Examples 7 and 8 - Wallabies defensive line isn’t aggressive. But noting to do with JAS. Fisher has actually said he is not coaching a fast line speed. To try and blame JAS is again selective.


Seems like an agenda in this rather than the genuine, quality analysis I’ve come to expect from the author.

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Jfp123 45 minutes ago
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So, you think top rugby players’ wages ought to be kept artificially low, when in fact the forces of “demand and supply” mean that many can and indeed are commanding wages higher than you approve of, and even though players regularly get injured, and those injuries can be serious enough to cut short careers and even threaten lives, e.g. Steven Kitshoff.

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As far as I can make out your objections amount to

1) they’ve sent a B team, which is not what we do and I don’t like it. Is there more to it than that? You haven’t replied to the points I made previously about sell out Tests and high ticket prices, so I take it reduced earnings are no longer part of your argument. Possibly you’re disappointed at not seeing Dupont et al., but a lot of New Zealanders think he is over rated anyway.


2) The Top 14 is paying players too much, leading to wage inflation around the world which is bad for the sport.

Firstly, young athletes have a range of sports to choose from, so rugby holding out the prospect of a lucrative, glamorous career helps attract talent.

Above all, market forces mean the French clubs earn a lot of money, and spend a large part of that money on relatively high wages, within a framework set by the league to maintain the health of the league. This framework includes the salary cap and Jiff rules which in effect limit the number of foreign stars the clubs employ and encourage the development of young talent, so there is a limit on Top14 demand. The Toulon of the 2010s is a thing of the past.


So yes, the French clubs cream off some top players - they are competitive sports teams, what do expect them to do with their money? - but there’s still a there’s a plentiful supply of great rugby players and coaches without French contracts. The troubles in England and Wales were down to mismanagement of those national bodies, and clubs themselves, not the French


So if you don’t want to let market forces determine wage levels, and you do want to prevent the French clubs from spending so much of their large incomes on players, how on earth do you want to set player wages?


Is the problem that NZ can’t pay so much as the Top 14 and you fear the best players will be lured away and/or you want NZ franchises to compete for leading international talent? Are you asking for NZ wage scales to be adopted as the maximum allowed, to achieve this? But in that case why not take Uruguay, or Spain, or Tonga or Samoa as the standard, so Samoa, a highly talented rugby nation, can keep Samoan players in Samoa, not see them leave for higher wages in NZ and elsewhere.

Rugby is played in lots of countries, with hugely varying levels of financial backing etc. Obviously, it’s more difficult for some than others, but aside for a limited amount of help from world rugby, it’s up to each one to make their sums add up, and make the most of the particular advantages their nation/club/franchise has. SA are not the richest, but are still highly successful, and I don’t hear them complaining about Top14 wages.


Many, particularly second tier, nations benefit from the Top14, and anyone genuinely concerned about the whole community of world rugby should welcome that. England and NZ have laid down rules so they can’t make the most of the French competition, which is up to them. But unlike some NZ fans and pundits, the English aren’t generally blaming their own woes on the French, rather they want reform of the English structure, and some are calling for lessons to learned from their neighbours across the channel. If NZ fans aren’t satisfied, I suggest they call for internal reform, not try to make the French scapegoats.


In my opinion, a breach of standards would be to include on your team players who beat up women, not to regularly send a B team on the summer tours for reasons of player welfare, which in all the years you’ve been doing this only some of the pundits and fans of a single country have made a stink about.


[my comments here are, of course, not aimed at all NZ fans and pundits]

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