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Calls for Quade Cooper to replace Max Jorgensen in Wallabies camp

James Slipper and Quade Cooper of the Wallabies watch on following the The Rugby Championship & Bledisloe Cup match between the Australia Wallabies and the New Zealand All Blacks at Melbourne Cricket Ground on July 29, 2023 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Morgan Hancock/Getty Images)

Pool C has provided some great drama to start the Rugby World Cup thanks to an incredibly competitive field of teams and of course, Eddie Jones.

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First, there was the Wales vs Fiji game. A match that came right down to the wire and was lost by a Fiji knock-on just metres from the line when the lead was within grasp in the dying moments.

Then, Fiji did what they couldn’t in round one and finished the job against Australia. It confirmed the hopes and beliefs of many that the Flying Fijians outfit are much more than fun and flair, but a genuine threat across the park.

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The loss put the Wallabies under huge pressure, needing to win each of their remaining games in order to avoid a first-ever pool stage exit.

The impending Test against Wales will go a long way in deciding the team’s fate, and they will be without numerous key players who have fallen to injury.

“One of the young backs, Max Jorgensen, young 18-year-old bloke – he wasn’t going to play any Tests anyway, he might have player against Portugal – he broke his leg,” former Wallaby Greg Martin told The Platform. “So there is a position open.

“Maybe Quade (Cooper’s) missed 20 calls from Eddie; if you remember pre-World Cup he wasn’t answering his calls. Maybe he’s picking his phone up now because we need a five-eighth that can direct the game and he’s got a bit of experience. And, we need a goal kicker.

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“Quade does both those things, maybe it’s not a bad idea. I saw on his Instagram he’s training hard so maybe he does come over. That could be a possibility

“But, I think even if he came over he can’t play against Wales so what’s the use?

“We’ve got problems with (Will) Skelton our captain, he’s out. (Taniela) Tupou’s out, our best front rower. So we’re in a bit of strife but as I said, we can still beat Wales.”

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Reports of No 10 Carter Gordon falling out of favour with Eddie Jones may add fuel to the notion of a Quade Cooper inclusion.

Gordon was selected as the only specialist first five-eighth in Eddie Jones’ 33-man squad, with the coach famously opting to omit Quade Cooper and the mildly injured Michael Hooper from the World Cup campaign.

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Injuries to the few veterans in the team confound the problems for the Wallabies and comments coming out of the camp suggest the players don’t even know who will captain the side against Wales.

The calming influence of an experienced leader like Cooper may be just what the team need but, as Martin says, it may be too late for the playmaker to make any significant impact on the campaign.

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That being said, a team will be fielded against the Welsh, and Martin says while it may not be the strongest XV Australia has ever named, it may be enough for a win.

“Wales aren’t that good. I know we’re not very good, but Wales aren’t either so we could possibly win this.

“We’re both about the same crapability so, we can win the game if we’re good enough. But, we need to do some tackling, we need to get better at the breakdown, we need to kick less, we need to give away less penalties. We gave away 20 penalties against Fiji.

“So, we’re at a low point in our cycle of players at the moment. We’re not very good, but it’s still conceivable that we can beat Wales.”

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Peter 663 days ago

Quade Cooper is the Solution to the #10 for the Wallabies but Quade will not take up any request from Eddie now.

Big mistake not taking both Cooper and Hooper to the World Cup. Their skills , experience and above all leadership is what is needed with the Wallabies but far too late now….. don’t be surprised if Wales wins over the Wallabies. Eddie has made a HUGE mistake in not taking two very experienced players

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CO 664 days ago

This epic epic epic Trainwreck is coming to an end Monday when Wales comfortably put the Wallabies out of their misery. Foley was the guy they needed and even if flying him in now it would be ridiculous expecting the player to literally land and play.

Eddie and the head of Australian rugby need to do the right thing and resign immediately after the game on Monday morning.

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The Chassis Chisler 664 days ago

I would bring in Bernard Foley not Quade.

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Schneider 664 days ago

Quade did not even reply to Eddies "courtesy" call to be dropped. No ways Eddie Jones eats humble pie and recalls him.

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Jfp123 31 minutes ago
France push All Blacks to 80th minute in narrow Dunedin defeat

So, you think top rugby players’ wages ought to be kept artificially low, when in fact the forces of “demand and supply” mean that many can and indeed are commanding wages higher than you approve of, and even though players regularly get injured, and those injuries can be serious enough to cut short careers and even threaten lives, e.g. Steven Kitshoff.

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As far as I can make out your objections amount to

1) they’ve sent a B team, which is not what we do and I don’t like it. Is there more to it than that? You haven’t replied to the points I made previously about sell out Tests and high ticket prices, so I take it reduced earnings are no longer part of your argument. Possibly you’re disappointed at not seeing Dupont et al., but a lot of New Zealanders think he is over rated anyway.


2) The Top 14 is paying players too much, leading to wage inflation around the world which is bad for the sport.

Firstly, young athletes have a range of sports to choose from, so rugby holding out the prospect of a lucrative, glamorous career helps attract talent.

Above all, market forces mean the French clubs earn a lot of money, and spend a large part of that money on relatively high wages, within a framework set by the league to maintain the health of the league. This framework includes the salary cap and Jiff rules which in effect limit the number of foreign stars the clubs employ and encourage the development of young talent, so there is a limit on Top14 demand. The Toulon of the 2010s is a thing of the past.


So yes, the French clubs cream off some top players - they are competitive sports teams, what do expect them to do with their money? - but there’s still a there’s a plentiful supply of great rugby players and coaches without French contracts. The troubles in England and Wales were down to mismanagement of those national bodies, and clubs themselves, not the French


So if you don’t want to let market forces determine wage levels, and you do want to prevent the French clubs from spending so much of their large incomes on players, how on earth do you want to set player wages?


Is the problem that NZ can’t pay so much as the Top 14 and you fear the best players will be lured away and/or you want NZ franchises to compete for leading international talent? Are you asking for NZ wage scales to be adopted as the maximum allowed, to achieve this? But in that case why not take Uruguay, or Spain, or Tonga or Samoa as the standard, so Samoa, a highly talented rugby nation, can keep Samoan players in Samoa, not see them leave for higher wages in NZ and elsewhere.

Rugby is played in lots of countries, with hugely varying levels of financial backing etc. Obviously, it’s more difficult for some than others, but aside for a limited amount of help from world rugby, it’s up to each one to make their sums add up, and make the most of the particular advantages their nation/club/franchise has. SA are not the richest, but are still highly successful, and I don’t hear them complaining about Top14 wages.


Many, particularly second tier, nations benefit from the Top14, and anyone genuinely concerned about the whole community of world rugby should welcome that. England and NZ have laid down rules so they can’t make the most of the French competition, which is up to them. But unlike some NZ fans and pundits, the English aren’t generally blaming their own woes on the French, rather they want reform of the English structure, and some are calling for lessons to learned from their neighbours across the channel. If NZ fans aren’t satisfied, I suggest they call for internal reform, not try to make the French scapegoats.


In my opinion, a breach of standards would be to include on your team players who beat up women, not to regularly send a B team on the summer tours for reasons of player welfare, which in all the years you’ve been doing this only some of the pundits and fans of a single country have made a stink about.


[my comments here are, of course, not aimed at all NZ fans and pundits]

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