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Campese takes issue with Danny Cipriani tweet about Owen Farrell

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Legendary Wallabies winger David Campese has taken issue with a tweet from Danny Cipriani, the ex-England international, in support of the red-carded Owen Farrell. Current England skipper Farrell was red-carded in last Saturday’s Summer Nations Series clash with Wales at Twickenham and his sending-off has since been hotly debated on social media.

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Cipriani weighed in on the controversy when he tweeted: “Good morning. It is clear that Owen’s tackle is a red card. I do not understand the emotional intensity behind the reaction to it. He doesn’t set out to hit people high. So critique the technique or poor timing, but why does rugby/sport always turn personal?”

This message prompted a reply from Campese, which read: “Hi mate. Because he does it over and over again. You must learn in life. Simple.”

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Steve Borthwick reacts to Owen Farrell’s red card and win against Wales

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Steve Borthwick reacts to Owen Farrell’s red card and win against Wales

Farrell, who was initially only yellow carded before having his shoulder-to-head tackle on Taine Basham upgraded to red via the TMO bunker, is facing a video conference disciplinary hearing on Tuesday where his case will be heard by Adam Casselden (chair, Australia) and former Wallabies duo John Langford and David Croft.

Having received a four-match ban only last January for a similar offence that had a six-week sanction entry point before mitigation was applied (this suspension was ultimately cut to three with Farrell completing the World Rugby coaching intervention programme), the potential exists for Steve Borthwick’s skipper to now receive a six-match ban with no mitigation.

That would sideline him from England’s remaining two Summer Nations Series games versus Ireland and Fiji and also make him unavailable for his country’s entire four-game pool campaign against Argentina, Japan, Chile and Samoa.

A heavy price has already been paid for England’s win last Saturday as the ankle injury picked up by Jack van Poortvliet resulted in him giving up his place in the World Cup squad to Alex Mitchell, the scrum-half jettisoned by Borthwick at the end of June.

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Red 700 days ago

I remember DC being banned for 3 weeks (I think) when the opposition player literally ran straight at him. Much less serious than Farrells hit

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ColinK 702 days ago

They have over-turned the red card. What a total disgrace and a sign of corruption in the game. I just watched the replay again to see if I missed something but it's clearly a shoulder hit to the head and arguably intentional. What a sad day, Ta'avoa was red carded for accidentally running into someone last year Abs vs Ireland, yet this kind of malice is ignored. Unreal.

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dan 699 days ago

It was an all Australian panel. Southern Hemisphere haven’t quite caught up with the message. That said, a Tonga player was banned for 10 weeks for an illegal tackle.

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Derek Murray 702 days ago

Turns out Campo was wrong. If you're Owen Farrell, there is no need to learn

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Viliami 701 days ago

Sad but true

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DH 702 days ago

David Campese chips in on tackling debate 🤣 Master of the judo throw tackle, he never put his shoulder into a tackle in his life. Terrible defender, not just in the positional sense, the guy was actually scared of tackling. Great attacking player.

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Sumkunn Tsadmiova 702 days ago

Was always amusing in the old days as Campese and Naas Botha swapped barbs on tackling / shoulder pads etc. When neither of them had ever made a tackle in their lives! The Ronan O'Garas of the Southern Hemisphere!

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Flankly 702 days ago

Timing, Danny? You mean he should do things like that after the final whistle?

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valentine 702 days ago

Ha. The old wog Campese still can't resist chiming in on any England story.

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Sumkunn Tsadmiova 702 days ago

Campese's still got sour grapes from single-handedly losing the 1989 Lions / Oz series! Perhaps he shouldn't have gone so high with his brainless pass! Come on Ieuan!

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RS 702 days ago

@ DR, i agree with you that him being picked on personally isnt fair and that it should be purely measured on the professionalism aspect. FACT is, Farrel tackels high, over and over AND OVER again and yes he needs to be punished severely for this. what makes matters worse is, these high tackles ALWAYS occurs when England is in shyte/losing and he tries to take out key play makers. this for me is absolute horse crap.

How many more 2nd chances does he want or deserve?


so YES, punish Farrel, punish him hard and ban him from international rugby for life.

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Sumkunn Tsadmiova 702 days ago

he's had the red card rescinded......

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DR 702 days ago

Cipriani has made an important point. Farrell has become the fall guy for a series of careless tackles over what has otherwise been a long and distinguished career. Let him be accountable for these indiscretions where veritable but let's not become so sanctimonious as to pretend that he is rugby's inveterate, unfit to captain England or some kind of dullard who doesn't learn how to tackle. Farrell holds the third highest points tally in test history and he plays a spirited and assertive brand of rugby. Sometimes he gets it wrong. Sometimes he plays on the fringe. Sometimes the officials are seemingly jumping at his shadow. Should we mention other big names going around who also need to give account for their on field transgressions yet seem to escape even cursory scrutiny? Shall we pull apart the other head clash that took place in the Welsh match that barely rated a mention? Presumably we shouldn't, especially when we have a patsy in a white jersey to lay into.

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Mark 702 days ago

I imagine Farrells QC will be taking the very best Harvey nicks chocky biscuits with him to the hearing this morning !!

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Jfp123 13 minutes ago
France push All Blacks to 80th minute in narrow Dunedin defeat

So, you think top rugby players’ wages ought to be kept artificially low, when in fact the forces of “demand and supply” mean that many can and indeed are commanding wages higher than you approve of, and even though players regularly get injured, and those injuries can be serious enough to cut short careers and even threaten lives, e.g. Steven Kitshoff.

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As far as I can make out your objections amount to

1) they’ve sent a B team, which is not what we do and I don’t like it. Is there more to it than that? You haven’t replied to the points I made previously about sell out Tests and high ticket prices, so I take it reduced earnings are no longer part of your argument. Possibly you’re disappointed at not seeing Dupont et al., but a lot of New Zealanders think he is over rated anyway.


2) The Top 14 is paying players too much, leading to wage inflation around the world which is bad for the sport.

Firstly, young athletes have a range of sports to choose from, so rugby holding out the prospect of a lucrative, glamorous career helps attract talent.

Above all, market forces mean the French clubs earn a lot of money, and spend a large part of that money on relatively high wages, within a framework set by the league to maintain the health of the league. This framework includes the salary cap and Jiff rules which in effect limit the number of foreign stars the clubs employ and encourage the development of young talent, so there is a limit on Top14 demand. The Toulon of the 2010s is a thing of the past.


So yes, the French clubs cream off some top players - they are competitive sports teams, what do expect them to do with their money? - but there’s still a there’s a plentiful supply of great rugby players and coaches without French contracts. The troubles in England and Wales were down to mismanagement of those national bodies, and clubs themselves, not the French


So if you don’t want to let market forces determine wage levels, and you do want to prevent the French clubs from spending so much of their large incomes on players, how on earth do you want to set player wages?


Is the problem that NZ can’t pay so much as the Top 14 and you fear the best players will be lured away and/or you want NZ franchises to compete for leading international talent? Are you asking for NZ wage scales to be adopted as the maximum allowed, to achieve this? But in that case why not take Uruguay, or Spain, or Tonga or Samoa as the standard, so Samoa, a highly talented rugby nation, can keep Samoan players in Samoa, not see them leave for higher wages in NZ and elsewhere.

Rugby is played in lots of countries, with hugely varying levels of financial backing etc. Obviously, it’s more difficult for some than others, but aside for a limited amount of help from world rugby, it’s up to each one to make their sums add up, and make the most of the particular advantages their nation/club/franchise has. SA are not the richest, but are still highly successful, and I don’t hear them complaining about Top14 wages.


Many, particularly second tier, nations benefit from the Top14, and anyone genuinely concerned about the whole community of world rugby should welcome that. England and NZ have laid down rules so they can’t make the most of the French competition, which is up to them. But unlike some NZ fans and pundits, the English aren’t generally blaming their own woes on the French, rather they want reform of the English structure, and some are calling for lessons to learned from their neighbours across the channel. If NZ fans aren’t satisfied, I suggest they call for internal reform, not try to make the French scapegoats.


In my opinion, a breach of standards would be to include on your team players who beat up women, not to regularly send a B team on the summer tours for reasons of player welfare, which in all the years you’ve been doing this only some of the pundits and fans of a single country have made a stink about.


[my comments here are, of course, not aimed at all NZ fans and pundits]

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