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Champions Cup draw: Permutations and potential 'pools of death'

2019 Heineken Champions Cup winners Saracens. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

The 2018/19 northern hemisphere seasons may feel as though they have only just finished, but the 2019/20 campaigns will be the focus of the rugby world on Wednesday, as the Heineken Champions Cup draw is made.

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The draw, which takes place in Lausanne, Switzerland, sees the top 20 sides in European competition last season separated into seven different seedings, which will then be used to organise the teams into four tiers, with each tier consisting of five teams. One team from each tier will then be drawn into the five pools.

Saracens, Leinster and Toulouse, as league winners, are automatically included in the top tier, where they will be joined by two of Exeter Chiefs, Glasgow Warriors and Clermont. One of these three will drop down into tier two, where they will join the three third-seeded teams, as well as the fourth-seeded team from the same league competition as the second seed who drops down.

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For example, should Clermont not be included in the top tier, they will drop down to tier two with the third-seeded sides – Gloucester, Munster and Lyon – and that will ensure that La Rochelle, the fourth-seeded side from France, are included in tier two also.

The third seeds alongside La Rochelle are Northampton Saints and Ulster, with two of these sides then joining the fifth-seeded sides, Harlequins, Connacht and Racing 92, in the third tier. The fourth tier has already been decided, with sixth seeds Bath, Benetton and Montpellier and seventh seeds Sale Sharks and Ospreys making up the final tier.

Each pool will consist of at least one team from each of the three competing leagues, whilst the duplicate teams from the same league will not occur until the fourth and final tier is drawn. In regard to the Guinness PRO14, no team from the same nation will compete in the same pool in the Champions Cup.

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The process potentially creates some particularly appetising pools for next season, with the ever-popular ‘Pool of Death’ moniker certainly appropriate for some of the possible combinations.

Reigning champions Saracens could be drawn alongside Munster, Racing 92 and Montpellier, should the balls fall in the right order, creating a pool with zero scope for error or any possibility to take their feet off the gas.

Likewise, Leinster could find themselves in a pool with Clermont, Harlequins and Montpellier, with Montpellier one of the teams that other clubs will be eager to avoid in the fourth tier.

South African rugby fans may not yet be able to enjoy the Cheetahs or the Southern Kings taking part in the competition, but there will be plenty of interest for them in terms of players. Tier two sides Gloucester and Munster, who both boast plenty of South Africans, could face off against Sale Sharks or Montpellier in tier four, who have similar African influence.

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Inevitably, there are some sides which teams will be hoping to match up with, such as Benetton in tier four. The Italian side have come on significantly over the last few years, but they will still be viewed as an enviable draw in tier four, as could the Ospreys or Sale, who will be bedding in plenty of new players. Connacht could be on certain clubs’ wishlists in tier three, whilst Northampton Saints, still in their infancy under Chris Boyd, could be seen as a nice draw in tier two, should they end up there.

Toulouse could draw a group of Northampton, Connacht and Benetton or Ospreys should the tiers align, something which, whilst still testing, would probably be embraced by the recent French champions.

Rather appropriately, the three most successful sides in the competition’s history, Leinster (4), Toulouse (4) and Saracens (3), are all assured of their top tier status and will be kept separate throughout the pool stage. At the other end of the spectrum, the Champions Cup draw will unlikely put too many smiles on faces in Italy and Wales, with those nations only having one representative apiece and both of those teams guaranteed to be in the bottom tier of teams.

Champions Cup draw tiers and seedings in full:

Tier 1 and 1st seeds – Saracens, Leinster and Toulouse

2nd seeds – Exeter Chiefs, Glasgow Warriors and Clermont

Tier 2 and 3rd seeds – Gloucester, Munster and Lyon

4th seeds – Northampton Saints, Ulster and La Rochelle

Tier 3 and 5th seeds – Harlequins, Connacht and Racing 92

Tier 4 and 6th and 7th seeds – Bath, Benetton, Montpellier, Sale Sharks and Ospreys

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fl 2 hours ago
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“Why do you downplay his later career, post 50? He won a treble less than two years ago, with a club who played more games and won more games than any other team that managed the same feat. His crowning achievement - by his own admission.”

He’s won many trebles in his career - why do you only care about one of them?

I think its unsurprising that he’d feel more emotional about his recent achievements, but its less clear why you do.


“Is it FA cups or League cups you’re forgetting in his English trophy haul? You haven’t made that clear…”

It actually was clear, if you knew the number he had won of each, but I was ignoring the league cup, because Germany and Spain only have one cup competition so it isn’t possible to compare league cup performance with City to his performance with Bayern and Barcelona.


“With Barcelona he won 14 trophies. With Bayern Munich he won 5 trophies. With City he has currently won 18 trophies…”

I can count, but clearly you can’t divide! He was at Barca for 4 years, so that’s 3.5 trophies per year. He was at Bayern for 3 years, and actually won 7 trophies so that’s 2.3 trophies per year. He has been at City for 8 completed seasons so that’s 2.25 trophies per year. If in his 9th season (this one) he wins both the FA cup and the FIFA club world cup that will take his total to 20 for an average of 2.22 trophies per year.


To be clear - you said that Pep had gotten better with age by every metric. In fact by most metrics he has gotten worse!

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fl 4 hours ago
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“He made history beyond the age of 50. History.”

He made history before the age of 50, why are you so keen to downplay Pep’s early career achievements? In 2009 he won the sextuple. No other manager in history had achieved that, and Pep hasn’t achieved it since, but here you are jizzing your pants over a couple of CL finals.


“If continuing to break records and achieve trophies isn't a metric for success”

Achieving trophies is a metric for success, and Pep wins fewer trophies as he gets older.


“He's still competing for a major trophy this year. Should he get it, it would be 8 consecutive seasons with a major trophy. Then the world club cup in the summer.”

You’re cherry picking some quite odd stats now. In Pep’s first 8 seasons as a manager he won 6 league titles, 2 CL titles, & 4 cup titles. In Pep’s last 8 seasons as a manager (including this one) he’s won 6 league titles, 1 CL title, & 2 (or possibly 3) cup titles. In his first 8 seasons he won the FIFA world club cup 3 times; in his last 8 seasons he’s won it 1 (or possibly soon to be 2) time(s). In his first 8 seasons he won the UEFA super cup 3 times; in his last 8 he won the UEFA super cup once. His record over the past 8 seasons has been amazing - but it is a step down from his record in his first 8 seasons, and winning the FA cup and FIFA club world cup this summer won’t change that.


Pep is still a brilliant manager. He will probably remain a brilliant manager for many years to come, but you seem to want to forget how incredible he was when he first broke through. To be clear - you said that Pep had gotten better with age by every metric. That was false!

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