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'Chaos': Lawes sheds light on the social that ended 2 England careers

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England’s 2019 World Cup training camp in Italy had a lasting impact on the squad, but not necessarily one that then-head coach Eddie Jones desired just weeks before the tournament.

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Jones’ gruelling camp in northern Italy involved an infamous bust-up between Mike Brown and Ben Te’o that resulted in neither being selected in an England squad again, let alone donning the white jersey.

Both Brown and Te’o have given their version of events in the subsequent years, but there has not been much context around that fateful night that ended both of their England careers.

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      The two players who organised that social, Courtney Lawes and Ben Youngs, recently described how the evening unfolded and how the “horrific” training camp led to the players going “f*****g ballistic” at the social.

      Now no longer involved with England having both retired from international rugby after the World Cup last year, Lawes and Youngs explained how their good idea for a team social descended into pandemonium.

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      “I won’t talk about the fight, but I planned that social,” Lawes said as a guest on Youngs’ and Dan Cole’s podcast For the Love of Rugby.

      “I just remember Treviso was horrific. It was like 35 degrees, 80 or 90 per cent humidity and we were getting hosed by the coaches.

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      “So we were having sessions, then we were doing this horrific fitness before the sessions, and then we’d have to do the session. Nobody could move.

      “So we had this mad, long, awful week and me and Lenny [Ben Youngs] were part of the leadership team and we were like ‘why don’t we have a social? Why don’t we ask Eddie?’

      “So we went to Eddie, ‘Eddie, I think we should have a social,’ and he was like ‘good mate, fantastic.’

      “So we organised this social and we thought it would be a great time. And we get there and everyone goes f*****g ballistic. Everyone. I was like ‘What is happening?’ I was like ‘I’m on the chopping block here lads, please.’

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      “It was absolute chaos.

      “It all kicked off, things happened and then next day on the bus, Eddie got up and peppered us, absolutely peppered us from the front of the bus.

      England went on to reach the World Cup final a few weeks later, putting in arguably the greatest performance in their history against the All Blacks in the semi-final.

      Though Brown and Te’o may disagree, the Leicester Tigers scrum-half said how this social had a positive effect on the team.

      “In a weird way, that totally galvanised the team,” he said. “And it’s absolutely bonkers. It was a big blowout by the group, we all needed it and some things happened, we won’t talk about it, but it actually brought the group together in the most bizarre way.”

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      CR 453 days ago

      A very English thing to do hey Courtney, blerrie kant

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      Matt Perry 453 days ago

      Mad how this somehow contained absolutely zero information.

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      KiwiSteve 453 days ago

      Teo filled Brown in. Total psycho. Proper roid rage. Poor man’s Manu. Never made a dent.

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      Tom 453 days ago

      My thoughts exactly.

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      SK 2 hours ago
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      Brett I love your fresh take on the picture that needed to be painted and ultimately wasnt. I agree there just wasnt enough in it for the ref to call it back and ultimately the ref was consistent the whole night at the breakdown. Australia are damned disheartened now but look how close it came to beating a team Campo said would thrash them by 30. This is the perfect prep for the Rugby Championship and the Boks and NZ. The Boks will be able to bring a scary pack to face the Aussies but it will be just as scary as facing these lads and so the Wallabies for me are making progress. They are not quite the finished article and the soft moments and tries and passive defence just proves it. Schmidt was brought in to make Australia better, he was brought in to make sure Australia improved in time for the Lions to avoid an embarrassment and look he has done that and taken them close so while the result is gutting its a job well done so far. lets see if they can take one step further and pilfer a test off these patchy Lions. Just a quick word on refs and the laws. Can we please tell World Rugby to simplify the game. At least 5 or 6 laws were examined in the wake of the last minute cleanout and several said Tizzano should have been pinged, others say Morgan should have been pinged. If former players and refs cant agree on what the right call was then it means the game is too complex. The refs have a clear mandate to let the game flow. I agree with that but the laws must support the refs. Right now they do not and leave too many holes for the refs to plug. The result is a furore after every major engagement between nations where the refs are abused.

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      IkeaBoy 2 hours ago
      'The Wallabies only have themselves to blame': How the Lions sunk Australia in Melbourne

      I’m a proud Irishman with a weakness for the underdog. My only stake in the game was an Aussie win to take the series to a decider. Even overlooking the actual clear out - which was the only thing Piardi instructed the TMO to review - I think it’s very easy to be objective and say that Australia got done on the calls.


      It’s a phase of play that unfolds in less than 10 seconds but is fairly easy to breakdown.


      1 - Ryan (#19 Lions) is tackled legally, goes to ground in possession of the ball but makes no effort to release the ball. He has to immediately once he goes to ground. PENALTY.


      2 - Tizzano (#21 Australia) is first man to the ball (from either team) and forms the ruck with his own hindfoot. Side entry doesn’t apply to him as the ruck is not formed at this stage but rather it’s formed by him. NO PENALTY.


      3 - Even to completely ignore the actual clear out (penalty/no penalty), foul play can still have occurred without the need for a HIA. The fact that Tizzano is walking around and available for the next match doesn’t mean he didn’t get emptied. His mouthguard data does seem to have registered an almighty force though. 50/50.


      4 - Both Morgan (#20 Lions) and Genge (#17 Lions) go to clear out but both do so by driving through the ruck off their feet and falling over the ball. Sealing. PENALTY


      5 - I still don’t understand why none of the coverage picks up on this - Morgan holds Tizzano’s feet in a wrap on the pitch after the clear out. On the match clock it’s 79.03 to 79.07 before he releases. Playing the player off the ball. PENALTY


      Piardi controls the narrative when reviewing with the TMO and starts on the wrong foot. The discussion is all on the basis that both sets of players arrive at the same time (which changes mitigation around foul play) which they don’t. They clearly don’t as Tizzano is first to the ball.


      For 79 mins that match was brilliant. The crowd was brilliant. The atmosphere seemed brilliant. It’s a loss on the sport that a gang of mic’d up officials can not get it right.

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