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England explain picking Tom Curry despite his online abuse ordeal

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England boss Steve Borthwick has explained why he has picked Tom Curry to start Friday night’s bronze medal final versus Argentina despite the online abuse that he has been subjected to in recent days.

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The head coach has made eight changes to his starting XV to take on the Pumas in Paris, but he decided to keep his back-rower involved even though he will wear the No6 shirt on this occasion to accommodate the naming of Sam Underhill at openside.

Curry has shipped a load of flak since he reported being on the receiving end of alleged discriminatory language during last Saturday night’s Rugby World Cup semi-final versus South Africa.

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    The forward approached referee Ben O’Keeffe midway through the opening half and asked the official. “Sir, if their hooker calls me a white c***, what do I do?” O’Keeffe replied: “Nothing, please. I’ll be on it.”

    The England player stayed silent in the post-game mixed zone when asked what had happened, but it emerged on Monday that World Rugby were formally reviewing the allegation in relation to the use of discriminatory language by South African hooker Bongi Mbonambi, an investigation that was still ongoing on Wednesday.

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    In the meantime, Curry’s club Sale released a statement backing their captain and outlining they were “absolutely appalled by the nature and level of disgusting abuse” that the player and his family have been subjected to.

    It soon emerged that the controversy won’t affect Curry’s participation in the third-place playoff at Stade de France, Borthwick explaining: “His preparation this week has been the ultimate professional, like he is every single day, every week.

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    “This is not a Tom Curry incident. Someone has said something that he has reported and he is getting on and preparing.

    “This is a World Rugby and SA Rugby matter to deal with, not an England Rugby or Tom Curry matter. We have said what we want to say on the matter. We have got a game on Friday which Tom and all the England squad are looking forward to.

    “I chatted to Tom early in the week, it was around how he is physically because the way Tom plays he has more involvements than any other player on the pitch. Everyone saw when I took him off on Saturday night, he was cut, bloodied. It’s another six-day turnaround.

    “He looked straight at me and point blank said, ‘I am desperate to play on Friday night’. This is a guy who wants to play. There is no doubt in my mind. The way he has prepared himself has been incredible. That is Tom Curry. I couldn’t be more proud of him.”

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    Skipper Owen Farell, who will lead out a team showing three backline changes and five more in the pack, added: “Personally speaking, Tom has been first-class like he always is.

    “What isn’t understandable is the amount of abuse he has got, the effect that has had, not just on him. That is the bit I and we really don’t understand. It seems to be going more and more like this but it shouldn’t be.

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    “He is one of the most honest and hardworking blokes I have ever played with. In terms of getting support, I hope he knows everyone close to him supports him and back him all the way. I’m sure he does. I hope the people who are close to him know he is being supported really well.

    “We wanted people to know our support of Tom but it is not something that we have been talking about constantly. With Tom himself he wants to get involved in this contest on Friday, it is his 50th cap. It is an unbelievably proud week for him.

    “It’s going to be the same for a couple of others as well. Ben Youngs’ last game as well. So we want to make sure this week is about doing them proud. We want to represent the shirt properly. We want to make sure we make the fans proud again.”

    Farell himself has been subjected to online abuse in recent times, back in August following his red card versus Wales in a Summer Nations Series game and again following last Saturday’s one-point loss to South Africa. “We have just said our bit, there is not really too much to say. You are dealing with people, human beings.

    “Just because you’re saying stuff on a computer screen or your phone doesn’t make it acceptable. It seems to be going more and more that way, but I don’t think it’s acceptable.”

    Has Farrell got a solution? “I don’t think that is something for us to come up with. I think there will be people who know more about it than me. Again, everyone is different.”

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    JW 642 days ago

    He went up to the ref and said

    “Sir, if their hooker calls me a white c***, what do I do?”

    Really? Tom is just being a right c*** with the ref in order to get an advantage during the game, he knows you don’t bring that stuff up during a game. All that over the top abuse though is coming from people to want to believe theyre righteous when the call someone a “white c***” though and should not be aloud a voice online.


    Even Borthwick is in on it, “honest” he reckons. No Steve, Tom is no Sam Cane!

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    Bear 643 days ago

    Quite frankly, this is a bunch of nonsense and World Rugby have further exacerbated this issue by not dealing with it decisively. Racism can be white on black as well as black on white, but in the absence of firm evidence, this needs to be booted.


    I don’t care much for Borthwick’s comments, nor the “support” from Curry’s club. Who cares? There are 2 accusations that stick with a person when made publicly for a long time thereafter, even if disproved, and racism is one of them.


    Sort this out, boot it to touch and get an apology from Curry, as well as World Rugby, for that matter. And for those talking heads out there who have said that Bongi can’t speak Afrikaans, how’s about going on TikTok and watching the clips of him doing just that.


    Bloody idiots!

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    AF 643 days ago

    I wouldn't expect an apology from him unless no real evidence comes to light. Even then, as I reckon there's nothing wrong with questioning something if you feel you've been verbally attacked based on race, or some other form of discrimination.


    I'm not sure why people are so convinced that Curry is in the wrong and Bongi isn't. It'll get dealt with and we'll see what happens.


    Personally I'm glad that we live in a day and age when such things can be addressed. Lord knows what would have been said against people of colour back in the day.

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    rod 643 days ago

    I’m a kiwi & I would have Tom Curry in our team in a heartbeat! Come to NZ play for a few years & get citizenship ! We have had a great England player who went on to win a World Cup playing for a team from the King Country ( which is a rural town of farmer’s & are just a team who who just play for their town) by the way had one of the greatest Collin Meads! Martin Johnson as it happens played two years there & look what Johnson accomplished after that ?

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    CO 643 days ago

    Tom, Lawes and the rest of the pack starters absolutely smashed the Boks. If Borthwick had of selected Underhill instead of Vunipola on the bench they'd now be in the final.

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    Jon 642 days ago

    Another way to think of it is that RSA beat ENG in the last 2 World Cups, time for new blood

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    Marius 643 days ago

    Always ifs buts and maybes - at least you lot are consistent in your endless moaning…can just imagine the average english pub, the poor sods 😂

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    DK 643 days ago

    Well I guess you’ll never know.

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    YeowNotEven 643 days ago

    Gee I sure hope the nickname

    ‘Wit Kant Curry’ doesn’t catch on..

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    CG 643 days ago

    Poor man being called nasty names

    Didums

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    Flankly 643 days ago

    “He is one of the most honest and hardworking blokes I have ever played with.”


    Great. So can Honest Mr Curry please tell us the context of the alleged statement, like when it happened, what was going on in the game at the time, where they were on the field, and simple things like that? If this really happened then why not let interested folks review it on tape? Why are those simple things being deliberately being obscured?


    Neutral observers can draw their own conclusions about the honesty involved.

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    Another 643 days ago

    I presume he has told all these things to the judicial committee. You are not on the judicial committee, and this isn’t trial by internet.

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    DK 643 days ago

    Swing low sweet chariot, coming 3rd or 4th to Curry me home.

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    ruckaa 643 days ago

    that s funny daniel serious times but that made me laugh

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    strachan 643 days ago

    He needs spice 🫚 to get flavour. Curry Bunny.

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    FM 643 days ago

    What a farce this has turned into. Here we are on the eve of picking the teams (ABs - Sth A) and the port drinkers are still cuffing back their cigars over a decision. I cant help but wonder had it been the other way around Curry would have been nailed to the cross by the same decision makers, and received ongoing obloquy from the nobles at the world press outlets!


    Interesting to note that as this goes on how the victim of the slur is being attacked, while the man who made the slur (supposedly), carries on his merry way without a mention. Well, this is the way it is these days isn’t it? WR won’t comment, why, just let the keyboard enthusiasts and certain journalists take the driver’s seat and forge a new narrative!

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    DK 643 days ago

    I think people having a laugh is fine. You get to say “kant” as much as you like and rewrite “Swing low sweet chariot”. It's wonderful. But nobody should be threatening him, that's a red line. That’s not cool.

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    Jonathan 643 days ago

    Bongi has every right to just continue with his life. At this stage, there’s a larger probability of him having done nothing wrong and Curry, through a misunderstanding caused by language barriers, his wrongly accused him of racism and verbal abuse. Its actually very possible that Bongi is the victim, and I’m not defending the actions of people directing abuse to Curry, but in the modern age a massive backlash SHOULD be expected, especially with the SA-Eng history and worldwide tension regarding racial issues.

    Feel sorry for Curry, but I’m backing Bongi all the way until there’s solid proof he is in the wrong. And if he’s not, Curry owes an apology, not for his claim to the ref, but for the whole debacle he has started due to his misunderstanding.

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    Larry 643 days ago

    So, Currie could not have misheard? And Farrel, well i’ll rather just say nothing.

    We are now even investigating something that happened a year ago… is it because they can’t prove Curry's allegation?

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    Bear 643 days ago

    Sorry Larry, but what is the issue of a year ago? I’ve heard and read mentions of it, but I can’t seem to find the specific reference to it, and I’m quite interested to know

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    JD 643 days ago

    Boo hoo. He brought it on himself. The last thing Bongi can be accused of is being anti white. He sometimes backchats the referee when it might be smarter to keep quiet, but a racist he is NOT. Look at that team; does it look like there’s any racial or other division in it?


    England as a team provokes niggle. Pity they can’t take it when it’s handed back to them.


    What did Curry expect the ref to say? “If he calls you names again, give him a poesklap”. Really?

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    Jonathan 643 days ago

    If WR can’t prove Bongi is in the wrong, which at this stage looks very probable as it seems pretty clearly to be Curry not understanding Afrikaans, Curry owes Bongi and Boks an apology for creating a fuss.

    Not saying racist comments or verbal abuse is fine, but heck, Curry has 100% been called much worse things at both club and international level and decides to stoke a fire in a Semi. He was definitely looking to provoke the Boks/ Bongi, and it backfired miserably.

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    G 643 days ago

    We need more rounded reporting and less “BIAS” please.

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    Ed 643 days ago

    It’s become clear that this was an unfortunate misunderstanding, with Mbonambi having called out something in Afrikaans that means ¨open side¨. World Rugby should complete their investigation and announce their findings quickly to stop this from festering any longer.

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    JoNo 643 days ago

    But there’s a twist in the tale…. Apparently they investigating an incident that took place in the Nov ‘22 game…. That's a bit of a change…

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    Nigel the dunce 643 days ago

    Another fairly written hum dinger of an article from rugby pass.

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