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England explain two 'great changes' in Chandler Cunningham-South

England back-rower Chandler Cunningham-South (Photo by Bob Bradford/CameraSport via Getty Images)

England team manager Richard Hill has revealed two “great changes” seen in Chandler Cunningham-South since his initial return to play rugby in the country of his birth. The soon-to-be 21-year-old emigrated with his family to New Zealand at the age of four, returning 14 years later following an academy contract offer at London Irish.

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The teenage back-rower quickly got stuck into adult rugby, appearing for Esher in the national leagues, and a first-team Gallagher Premiership appearance for London Irish soon followed before he travelled with England U20s to the 2022 Summer Series in Italy.

Harlequins snapped Cunningham-South up for the 2023/24 season after 22 further games for the Exiles last year and now, seven months after playing for England age-grade at the Junior World Championship in South Africa, he has been capped twice off the Test-level bench by Steve Borthwick.

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    The rookie has been the focus of a special 02 Inside Line episode leading into this weekend’s round three Guinness Six Nations match away to Scotland, with team boss Hill effusive in his praise for the fast-developing forward.

    “Chandler came onto my radar as well as the U20s selectors from a guy called Jon Fisher, who was working at London Irish with him. He had notified us about the fact that he had started playing for Esher Rugby Club and followed that up with some highlight reels of his first game which was pretty impressive,” explained Hill.

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    “Chandler has definitely developed as a player. Whilst there was noticeable skill set with the ball carry, that physicality in the carry, he has had to work incredibly hard over the last couple of years. It’s not only the physical nature of the contact, that first but into the tackle, but also how he remains strong with that carry and able to present the ball and it’s recyclable for quick ball.

    “That’s been one of the great changes. Also alongside those clips I was sent early on was some of his early lineout development. I would say he is a much more dynamic jumper now and works incredibly hard to make sure that is a positive aspect of his offering to us as a team.”

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    Cunningham-South referenced this lineout development when interviewed on the show. “With the lineouts and stuff, Maro (Itoje) has been a big help for me. So has Charlie Ewels, just explaining everything to me, and then Joey Lewis has helped me every night basically going through lineouts which has been a big help.”

    The back-rower also reflected on his decision to quit New Zealand and come back to England. “It was a big, big change to come over here when I was 18 but it was an opportunity I felt I couldn’t really turn down.

    “I felt like I would develop quickly over here and that has happened with a lot of help from guys like Jonathan Fisher pushing me in the right direction, guiding me and helping me to become a better rugby player and better person as well.

    “Coming back as an 18-year-old to London I was a very raw player, very inexperienced player, didn’t really know much about the professional environment and what it was. I suppose I had to be confident to come over here and back myself to learn a lot and just soak it all up.

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    “As a person as well, coming over I was a bit immature, probably wasn’t doing all the right things to be a professional rugby player. But since coming over here it has given me an extra focus on what I really want to achieve in life and I’m determined to get where I want to be.”

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    Jfp123 21 minutes ago
    France push All Blacks to 80th minute in narrow Dunedin defeat

    So, you think top rugby players’ wages ought to be kept artificially low, when in fact the forces of “demand and supply” mean that many can and indeed are commanding wages higher than you approve of, and even though players regularly get injured, and those injuries can be serious enough to cut short careers and even threaten lives, e.g. Steven Kitshoff.

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    As far as I can make out your objections amount to

    1) they’ve sent a B team, which is not what we do and I don’t like it. Is there more to it than that? You haven’t replied to the points I made previously about sell out Tests and high ticket prices, so I take it reduced earnings are no longer part of your argument. Possibly you’re disappointed at not seeing Dupont et al., but a lot of New Zealanders think he is over rated anyway.


    2) The Top 14 is paying players too much, leading to wage inflation around the world which is bad for the sport.

    Firstly, young athletes have a range of sports to choose from, so rugby holding out the prospect of a lucrative, glamorous career helps attract talent.

    Above all, market forces mean the French clubs earn a lot of money, and spend a large part of that money on relatively high wages, within a framework set by the league to maintain the health of the league. This framework includes the salary cap and Jiff rules which in effect limit the number of foreign stars the clubs employ and encourage the development of young talent, so there is a limit on Top14 demand. The Toulon of the 2010s is a thing of the past.


    So yes, the French clubs cream off some top players - they are competitive sports teams, what do expect them to do with their money? - but there’s still a there’s a plentiful supply of great rugby players and coaches without French contracts. The troubles in England and Wales were down to mismanagement of those national bodies, and clubs themselves, not the French


    So if you don’t want to let market forces determine wage levels, and you do want to prevent the French clubs from spending so much of their large incomes on players, how on earth do you want to set player wages?


    Is the problem that NZ can’t pay so much as the Top 14 and you fear the best players will be lured away and/or you want NZ franchises to compete for leading international talent? Are you asking for NZ wage scales to be adopted as the maximum allowed, to achieve this? But in that case why not take Uruguay, or Spain, or Tonga or Samoa as the standard, so Samoa, a highly talented rugby nation, can keep Samoan players in Samoa, not see them leave for higher wages in NZ and elsewhere.

    Rugby is played in lots of countries, with hugely varying levels of financial backing etc. Obviously, it’s more difficult for some than others, but aside for a limited amount of help from world rugby, it’s up to each one to make their sums add up, and make the most of the particular advantages their nation/club/franchise has. SA are not the richest, but are still highly successful, and I don’t hear them complaining about Top14 wages.


    Many, particularly second tier, nations benefit from the Top14, and anyone genuinely concerned about the whole community of world rugby should welcome that. England and NZ have laid down rules so they can’t make the most of the French competition, which is up to them. But unlike some NZ fans and pundits, the English aren’t generally blaming their own woes on the French, rather they want reform of the English structure, and some are calling for lessons to learned from their neighbours across the channel. If NZ fans aren’t satisfied, I suggest they call for internal reform, not try to make the French scapegoats.


    In my opinion, a breach of standards would be to include on your team players who beat up women, not to regularly send a B team on the summer tours for reasons of player welfare, which in all the years you’ve been doing this only some of the pundits and fans of a single country have made a stink about.


    [my comments here are, of course, not aimed at all NZ fans and pundits]

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