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Everyone is saying the same thing about the Doris-Kolbe incident

Ireland captain Caelan Doris leads his team from the pitch after victory in the second test between South Africa and Ireland at Kings Park in Durban, South Africa. (Photo By Brendan Moran/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Saturday’s Test match between Ireland and South Africa in Durban produced a dramatic finish for the ages that saw the series drawn, ensuring the debate around who is the ‘best rugby team in the world’ lives to fight another day.

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The match ended with a last-minute drop goal by Ireland’s Ciaran Frawley, securing a narrow 25-24 victory for Andy Farrell’s men, who had been beaten seven days previously in Pretoria.

Frawley – playing in just his sixth international match – delivered the decisive blow with a drop goal in the dying seconds. The remarkable kick followed a similar drop goal, just ten minutes before the final whistle.

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    Andy Farrell settles No.1 debate

    The Dubliner’s contributions were no doubt instrumental in Ireland’s triumph over the world champions and a wider conversation is likely to be had about why he remains on the replacement bench for both Leinster and Ireland.

    If there was one slight bone of contention between some Irish and South African fans, and it was in that final play leading up to Frawley’s fateful drop goal. A small number of fans took issue the role of Caelan Doris in the final play and argue that the Irish No.8 leaned to the left and obstructed the onrushing Cheslin Kolbe, preventing him from charging down Frawley’s drop goal attempt.

    According to that take, Doris’ positioning granted Frawley the necessary time to secure the winning points.

    Far, far more other accounts instead took Kolbe to task for what was perceived by many as a performative dive executed in a vain attempt at milking a penalty from Dickson and his TMO team, who did review it.

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    Rugby Youtuber Andrew Forde wrote: “As a complete neutral individual who didn’t care whoever won and enjoyed an amazing test match… Kolbe is seriously looking for that, no foul imo.”

    Another poster on X – a South African one at that – wrote: “Have a look at other angles. Kolbe started slipping and falling way before any contact. And would not have been in time for a charge down anyway. Boks were terrible and in the end lost by a moment of brilliance against the 2nd best team in the world. At our worst test venue at home.”

    Other Bok fans also suggested there was little in the incident, one writing: “As a Bok supporter, there’s nothing in that. Smart play by Doris and Bealham positioning themselves there. Irish played smart and protected their backs the whole game with kicks. Osborne was sublime….again. Well deserved win.”

    Some fans were more forthright, bemoaning the increasing amount of what is being dubbed ‘simulation’ in rugby. “Kolbe is an awesome player but he really let himself down with that pathetic dive before Frawleys drop goal!”

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    Others made fun of the attempts to claim that the slight sway from Doris amounted to a foul. “If you slow it right down you can see Doris deliberately increasing his blinking rate thereby causing the draught necessary to knock Kolbe over – clear yellow card offence.”

    Springboks head coach Rassie Erasmus didn’t take issue with it either, saying after the game: “At the end, it was a really good drop goal, well executed and we couldn’t stop that.”

    Doris gave his take on Frawley’s drop goals: “We got it back on track… Ciaran deserves massive credit. The first drop goal, I thought the ball was going to me, I see it going in behind to him and he slots it.

    “And then the composure he had, first of all going for the cross-field which didn’t come off and then he kicks it again and I think, ‘What are you doing kicking the ball away?’ A perfectly weighted kick, we tackle them into touch and just the composure he had throughout and the confidence to go for that last kick, credit to him. I thought it was class.”

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    Barry 369 days ago

    The wee fella dived. He went down quicker than a cheap whore.

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    Sebastian 370 days ago

    Hahaaaha. SA fans whining again. Kolbe was never getting to Frawley and he knew it, thats why he took that dive, hoping to a get a fraudulent obstruction penalty. The last thing SA fans should be doing is complaining about the refs, do we need to remind them about the World Cup?

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    DV 370 days ago

    No one’s whining you stereotypical keyboard warrior . We’re all congratulating Ireland for winning the game and for been a great rugby team that is a joy to watch .

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    CT 370 days ago

    Seems you 🐸 can't get over the great defeat of the frogs at home shame there is only one thing that I remember is that the boks are world champions and the French aren't; ) bon appetit petit grenouille

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    ga 372 days ago

    no one is talking about finlay bealham getting into position before the ball was passed to block after kolbe would have got passes Doris. Completely legal. Smart play.


    The Irish block lines were amazing all game. Our wingers did not get a sniff of the ball off any box kick throughout the game.

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    Toaster 373 days ago

    Poor article and absolutely zero in it

    Kolbe fell before anyway and Doris stood his ground

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    JC 373 days ago

    He clearly dives/throws himself to the ground after he passes Doris. Bad form and poor sportsmanship after two brilliant tests. Keep that stuff between the Spanish and the English at the euros tonight. Abit too much of it has crept into rugby in general the last few years. Clamping down on it, rather than embracing it like football does is the only way to eradicate it.

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    GH 371 days ago

    Could make the SA diving team for Olympics

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    PE 371 days ago

    I think he just slips… He doesn’t cover himself in glory asking for the TMO check though

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    RL 373 days ago

    How can this incident even be a talking point ffs any rational person watching the game could see very easily that it wasn’t anything other than last gasp desperation.

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    Bull Shark 373 days ago

    Well, I wouldn’t have Doris on the field for that croc roll more than anything else.


    I wonder why a croc roll - which has obliterated many a knee - isn’t a red card offence?


    Why ban them if you can get off with a yellow?


    A horrendous method of clearing a ruck which I was hoping we’d never see again.

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    PE 371 days ago

    Are you going to look back on every croc roll that SA players have inflicted on other’s and suggest that they should have been red cards? Yellow was the right call in this case and in time, we should see no Croc rolls in the game at all.

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    Dan 372 days ago

    Can always count on the ignorant saffas to spew a load of ignorant shite.


    Plus one for you kid. You’ve done your nation of thickos proud!

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    JK 372 days ago

    or the fact that two players attempt a croc roll on the same player…

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    Toaster 373 days ago

    Yes a good point

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    swivel 373 days ago

    Haha the old double pump of the keyboard trick. Classic


    It was clearly illegal dance jive hip bump, would still never have got to the ball

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    carlos 373 days ago

    Pure football behavior by Kolbe. Leave that for the Eurocopa or Copa America.

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    Blanco 373 days ago

    Kolbe actually started his sprint early and had to check to make sure he didn’t run off side before the scrumhalf threw it back. If he didn’t have to check he might have got into Frawleys line of sight. PSDT saw Kolbe on the ground. He is doing right by his country to make sure there was no obstruction.

    PSTD is a big man. There was a little bit of pushing between himself and a much smaller guy, then a tiny guy pushed him. I thought it was Casey after running on the pitch. I was thinking, don’t do it Casey, or you’ll end up knocked out again. It was Garry Ringrose! THe other guy was McCloskey!

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    PL 1 hour ago
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    I find it interesting that journalists who have done nothing in rugby comment on selections & coaching like they are experts

    Concussive injury’s will remove insurance cover from the game unless their is strict application of the laws designed to remove MND Parkinson’s and CTE from the game


    Head on head I saw red to Adam Coleman as tackler for Irish while unconscious on a stretcher - concussions occur without twitching on the ground or the wobbly boot - I know I had maybe 20 from rugby


    The officiating of last feet is non existent

    The lack of effective wrap by Lions front rower & that decision had a close relationship with ordure in a toilet

    A head on head tackle red for Coleman not even penalty lead to a try in a phase or 2


    Powys v Evans lead to a £> 2 mill verdict against the ref personally special leveraged to Hiuse of Lords

    Refs will stop reffing with no insurance then no game


    About 5 years ago 4 or 5 French colts died from head hits in elite club games - that led to below sternum law - hamlets honoured in breach not observance

    Last feet non existent - enforcement favour flowing rugby nor lions meat grinder forwards get momentum and puck & drive NZ Vowel noise


    The UK Class Action could be very well be lost WRC will try every dirty trick in case they already used dial a neuros to argue the unarguable is law gossip


    I reffed ref coached & assessed for ruffly 17 seasons


    The application of laws is like a zig zag on speed

    Line out laws not enforced scrums tight pulling loose down one side mirror on other side elbow pointing to ground stretch marks on jersey

    Der moment the refs need to go Soec Savers

    My bet unless they stop lack of intestinal fortitude game management


    Yellow every time head contact or above sternum


    Needs sterner GMGs material impact removed set piece caterpillar remove

    Last feet to last feet + 1 m


    When I reffed I kept them well apart - hated me till they got over yellow and they actually had fun & complemented me post game backs had room and pick and drive had momentum


    As for intentional foul play like tackle in air auto red no replacement 100,000 fine player 250,000 club


    Treble it for international 26 week suspension & it’s disappear over night

    25 were scrum for dissent


    Penalty all this rubbish shots at opponents after error


    All the s.ite would disappear


    The pathetic unsportsmanlike behaviour would lead to standards


    Remember Les Boyd’s penalty re Brohman -if that is the way we treat foul play but while foul play with potential serious injury with a feather duster like we are the game is destined to no insurance following that no refs cause would you risk bankruptcy like Powys v Evans

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    Soliloquin 2 hours ago
    Why New Zealand learned more from their July series than France

    For Fischer, many people in France are still doubting him - it’s the first time he has a full season (31 games). Before, he was always injured at some point. He’s 27, so not the youngest, and you have a younger Boudehent or Jégou behind.

    His physicality is incredible, but he didn’t prove he’s got hands. He just proved he was able to defend like a beast.

    But you know, even Cros has improved his handling skills lately, so it’s never too late!

    And he will play the Champions Cup with a solid Bayonne side, so let’s see!


    I don’t agree with ‘only Fischer’: Brennan proved he’s a great 4/7 utility player, and Galthié likes those very much (Woki or Flament). He’s 23, playing for Toulouse with high concurrence, so the prospect is good. I rate him higher than Auradou, who had a few games in the 6 Nations.

    For Depoortère, he had a more silent season than the previous one - injured at the worst moment during the Autumn Tests series - but came back strong with a Champions Cup and a solid partnership with Moefana. What could save him would be to start playing as a 12 when Moefana isn’t there, bulking up and become the new Jauzion.

    But he’s 22 and an incredible talent at 13. His height makes me think he had more potential than your fan favorite Costes or the utility player that is Gailleton.


    As for Montagne or Mallez, with the lack of quality in props, they could find a spot!

    Especially Mallez who’s got a good spot to get behind Baille at Toulouse. Neti isn’t the youngest and hasn’t an international level.


    And again, as Ugo Mola said, you never play with your best team.

    So 30-32 player is more of a 38-40, so you need back-ups.

    France knows very well how useful they can be during RWCs.

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    Soliloquin 2 hours ago
    Why New Zealand learned more from their July series than France

    Hastoy was a good prospect before the 2023 RWC, he was the fly-half who led La Rochelle to the victory in the Champions Cup final in Dublin against Leinster.

    But he made it to the squad only because Ntamack got his ACL.

    He played against Uruguay, which a terribly poor game by the French side, and since then he declined a bit, alongside his club.

    Under the pressure of Reus and West at 10, he regained some credit at the end of the season (among all a drop at the 81st minute of a game).

    He’s quite good everywhere, but not outstanding.

    He doesn’t have the nerves, the defense and the tactical brain of Ntamack, the leadership and the creativity of Ramos or the exceptional attacking skills of Jalibert.


    I really hope that:

    -Ntamack will get his knee back. The surgery went well. He wasn’t the most elusive player in the world, but he was capable of amazing rushes like the one against NZ in 2021 or the Brennus-winning try in 2023.

    -Jalibert will continue to improve his defense. He started working hard since March (after his defensive disaster against England) with a XIII specialist, and I’ve seen great moments, especially against Ntamack in the SF of the Champions Cup. It’s never too late. And it would be a great signal for Galthié.

    -Hastoy will build up his partnership with Le Garrec, that La Rochelle will start a new phase with them and Niniashvili, Alldritt, Atonio, Boudehent, Jegou, Bosmorin, Bourgarit, Nowell, Wardi, Daunivucu, Kaddouri, Pacôme…

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