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Harlequins keep hold of 4 English and 2 Welsh academy products

Zach Carr of Harlequins looks on during the Premiership Rugby Cup match between Northampton Saints and Harlequins at Franklin's Gardens on October 11, 2022 in Northampton, England. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Harlequins have completed a busy week of contract renewals by confirming the signatures of six academy players on new deals.

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Scrum-half Jake Murray, flankers Seb Driscoll and Zach Carr, locks Harry Browne and Jonny Green, and hooker Jack Doorey-Palmer are the six players to sign on at the Stoop.

Carr and Browne both represented England at the U20 Six Nations earlier this year, while Green represented Wales. Driscoll has also featured for Wales U20 in the past, and Doorey-Palmer has played for England U18.

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    “We’re delighted to have these six young men rewarded for their hard work with a new contract,” said Harlequins head of academy Chim Gale.

    “All six have shown plenty of improvement this season, their determined to learn, develop and become consistent full-time athletes. We look forward to their continued impact in 2024/25 as they gain further experience.”

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    These deals come just days after veteran Danny Care signed a one-year contract extension with the club, putting to bed any speculation that he could be leaving Quins at the end of the season after 18 years.

    “I’m excited to extend my contract with Quins for my 19th season at the club,” Care said after the deal was announced.

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    “This is my home, I love everything about it, the rugby we play, our amazing fans, and the memories we have made together.

    “It was an easy decision to sign the contract, we have a great group of lads who I love playing with, and we’re building something very special.”

    Quins are also set to see a number of big names leave at the end of the season, including Andre Esterhuizen, Louis Lynagh and Will Collier. Meanwhile, they are yet to bring in any replacements.

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