'I have my philosophies': Referee Ben O'Keeffe reveals how he previews games

International referee Ben O'Keeffe made a guest appearance on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod this week to tackle some of the big talking points around refereeing decisions and their impact on the game.

Panelist and ex-Blues Hooker James Parsons talked about his days as captain of North harbour and how he and the teams' analyst would prepare for the specific referee they had for their next game, looking at "where does he penalise, what is he penalised for, ok he's really high around defensive penalties".

He asked O'Keeffe if he also analyses his own penalty statistics.