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John Kirwan names his first choice All Black team 'cleaning house' of Crusaders players

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Former All Black wing John Kirwan has shared his first choice All Blacks lineup for 2022 which includes a number of changes for the side that lost to France in Paris last November.

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Speaking on Sky Sport NZ’s The Breakdown, Kirwan offered up his team for discussion based on early Super Rugby Pacific form.

Kirwan made sweeping changes and removed all but one Crusaders player out of the All Black backline, with Richie Mo’unga, David Havili, George Bridge and Sevu Reece all missing out. Of the omissions, only Havili was able to secure a bench spot.

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      We’re joined by Springbok royalty, Siya Kolisi, who discusses his incredible journey to becoming one of the most iconic players the sport has ever seen. Siya discusses his career journey both on and off the pitch including – altercations off the filed, the genius of Rassie Erasmus as a coach and selector, URC vs super rugby, the possibility of moving to play in Europe, his thoughts on Boks joining six nations, resetting rugby pathway, an incredible impromptu supper with Gerald Buttler, Drinks with Jurgen Klopp & Roc Nations positive influence on rugby.

      Only one Crusader, the in-form Will Jordan, found a place on the right wing while the Blues combination of Beauden Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Rieko Ioane took the 10-11-12-13 roles.

      Aaron Smith starts at halfback while Hurricanes second five-slash-fullback Jordie Barrett retained his place in the 15 jersey.

      Finlay Christie was selected to back up Smith on the bench, while Damian McKenzie returned to play a utility role along with Havili.

      Despite Joe Moody’s season-ending injury being confirmed today, Kirwan already made the decision to go with his Crusaders teammate George Bower as the starting loosehead prop alongside Codie Taylor and Ofa Tuungafasi in the front row.

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      The established pair of Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick were unsurprisingly selected to pack down at lock but in a big omission, Scott Barrett was unable to secure a position on the bench. Instead, Ethan Blackadder and Tupou Vaa’i are to provide loose forward/lock cover.

      In the loose forwards, Blues captain Dalton Papalii was named to start at blindside in the 6 jersey, joining Sam Cane at 7 and Ardie Savea No 8 respectively. Moving Papalii to 6 put three opensides across the All Black back row.

      “Let’s start with the Dalton Papalii one,” panelist Jeff Wilson said.

      “You have been forever not wanting to play guys out of position, he’s an openside flanker.

      “So why in the world have you taken a guy that you’ve already said is always a seven and you’ve decided to move him to 6?

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      “Are we looking for specialists or can Dalton Papalii be an international six?”

      Former All Black No 8 Stephen Bates backed Papalii to give the role a crack, but said that he is currently the best New Zealand has at openside, based on his form with the Blues this year.

      “I think he can be an international seven, he’s the best seven in the country at the moment, playing the best rugby,” Bates responded.

      “I think Dalton can play 6 at a pinch, great bench player as well, but I think he’s best position is 7.”

      Kirwan’s thinking around Papalii at six centred around having an enforcer in the role like former All Black Jerome Kaino but that would put pressure on the All Blacks set piece.

      “For the last 257 days of doing this show we’ve been saying we need a Jerome Kaino, we need a 6 that is going to smash people,” Kirwan said.

      “Someone who is going to work really hard and carry the ball hard.”

      Wilson highlighted that having Papalii at blindside would make things difficult for the All Blacks at lineout time, to which Bates agreed.

      “I will go with Jeff here, the one thing you are doing there is putting a lot of pressure on Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick to win lineouts. I know Ardie jumps occasionally, Sam Cane jumped a little bit this week, and Dalton jumps occasionally,” he said.

      “But a lot of blindside flankers these days in international rugby, remember who won the World Cup, are big tall men.”

      John Kirwan’s early 2022 All Blacks side:

      1. George Bower
      2. Codie Taylor
      3. Ofa Tuungafasi
      4. Brodie Retallick
      5. Sam Whitelock
      6. Dalton Papalii
      7. Sam Cane
      8. Ardie Savea
      9. Aaron Smith
      10. Beauden Barrett
      11. Caleb Clarke
      12. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
      13. Rieko Ioane
      14. Will Jordan
      15. Jordie Barrett

      Reserves

      16. Samisoni Taukei’aho
      17. Angus Ta’avao
      18. TBA
      19. Ethan Blackadder
      20. Tupou Vaa’i
      21. Findlay Christie
      22. David Havili
      23. Damian McKenzie

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      Mike 904 days ago

      The worst coach in world rugby history who destroyed Japan, destroyed Italy, and turned the Auckland Blues into a laughing stock but he has the arrogance to publish his ongoing incompetency with this selection disaster.

      The guy is an arrogant clown who never learnt to STFU.

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      Jamie 2 1033 days ago

      John Kirwan admitted on Breakdown a few months ago that he was a terrible coach for the Blues, so his AB picks could be taken with a pinch of salt, I suspect that most of The Breakdown panel would be just as successful as the AB selectors are right now if they had the job of national team selection, but they wont be putting their jobs on the line.

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      Flatcoat 1078 days ago

      Worst Coach the Blues ever had. Clueless...

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      Michael 1084 days ago

      Tom Robinson at 6, great lineout jumper as well, can slot into lock.

      Sevu Reece without doubt on wing

      T J before Christie, he earns alot of ball out of the refs

      Ekland before Taylor

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      GH 1097 days ago

      It's a good thing a JK selected ABs will never take the field. Sam Kane though could be the surprise omission at some point. With his propensity for injury & the compelling form of others could force a change.

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      Ian 1098 days ago

      I have said it before, John Kirwin always favours north island players, predominantly those from the Blues. It is probably a relief that he is not the ABs coach.

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      Mark 1099 days ago

      No No No! We need desperately to have big bodies in our pack. I would try Tupou Vaii at 6 as well as Arika Ioane. Cullen Grace at 8 with perhaps Scott Barrett covering 8/lock on the bench. Dalton Papalii plays the first half at 7 and Ardie Savea plays the second half at 7…not 8! Reiko Ioane and jake Goodhue in the centres. No to Damian MacKenzie.

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      Shane 1100 days ago

      That team jk has selected will get smashed with eaze

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      josh 1131 days ago

      Wtf is Kirwan smoking he attacking like blues backs are killing everyone they not and it's the all blacks not the blues lol 🤣 ,Kirwan stop S***ING blues d*** lol ,

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      GARTH 1131 days ago

      Kirwan was useless as a coach and he is heading down the same track with his selections, he cannot see past the blues and chiefs. I dare say he would even have a problem picking his nose. Thank god he is not a selector although he an Foster would probably stuff up the divisional selecting as well.

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      George 1131 days ago

      1. George Bower

      2. Codie Taylor

      3. Nepo Laulala

      4. Brodie Retallick

      5. Samuel Whitelock

      6. Ethan Blackadder

      7. Dalton Papalili

      8. Ardie Savea

      9. Aaron Smith

      10. Beauden Barrett

      11. Caleb Clarke

      12. David Havili

      13. Reiko Ioane

      14. Leicester Fainga'anuku??

      15. Will Jordan (he attacks in fullback better, he is beginning to get a good kick and he is good on defence)


      16. Samisoni Taukei'aho

      17. Aiden Ross??

      18. Tamati Williams??

      19. Scott Barrett

      20. Sam Cane

      21. Folau Fakatava??

      22. Jack Goodhue

      23. Jordie Barrett

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      neil 1132 days ago

      Bring it on JK - Ireland win series 3-0

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      Alan 1132 days ago

      Some serious doubt about some of those selections. TVS is nowhere near international level. Watch a replay of the Fiji game.

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      Jim Taylor 1132 days ago

      My 2022 Starting 23


      1. Ethan de Groot

      2. Samisoni Taukeiaho

      3. Ofa Tuungafasi

      4. Brodie Retallick

      5. Sam Whitelock (c)

      6. Akira Ioane

      7. Ardie Savea

      8. Dalton Papali'i

      9. Aaron Smith

      10. Beauden Barrett

      11. Caleb Clarke

      12. Jordie Barrett

      13. Rieko Ioane

      14. Julian Savea

      15. Will Jordan

      16. Codie Taylor

      17. Karl Tuinukuafe

      18. George Bower

      19. Josh Lord

      20. Tupou Vaai

      21. Finlay Christie

      22. Richie Mounga

      23. Josh Ioane

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      uarks 1131 days ago

      julian savea,you gotts to be kidding m8,your a joke maybe stick to selecting the u11 thames valley team🥸

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      isaac 1132 days ago

      Wow...so says the man who didnt want the all blacks to play fiji last year and after the first test changed tune to wanting to include fiji in the rugby championship..lol...a real chameleon

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      isaac 1132 days ago

      Clearly a blues man....how can u pick rts who hasn't even announced himself??

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      Michael 1132 days ago

      JK's selections are questionable and given his performance as a coach I wouldnt bet anything on them


      With 18 games left before the RWC23, Fozzie has to develop and beddown a stable team.


      1. De Groot

      2. TauKei'aho

      3. Tuungafasi

      4. Retallick

      5. Vaa’i

      6. Ioane

      7. Papalli

      8. Savea

      9. Webber

      10. Barrett

      11. Clarke

      12. Barrett

      13. Ioane

      14. Reece

      15. Jordan

      16. Norris

      17. Aumua

      18. Williams

      19. Lord

      20. Jacobson

      21. Blackadder

      22. Smith A

      23. DMAc

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      George 1131 days ago

      Where Whitelock??????

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      We 1132 days ago

      Everyone picking Clarke, or TVS need to throw away their pipes. Not even going to say much about JKs “form” 15. At least if he signed off JK we could all just assume he was “just kidding” because it’s a joke

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      Francis 1132 days ago

      What about Julian Savea??

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      uarks 1131 days ago

      what about him🥸

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      Francis 1132 days ago

      1.George bower

      2.Codie Taylor

      3.Ofa tuugafasi

      4.Scott barrett

      5.Sam whitelock

      6.Ethan Blackadder

      7.Dalton Papalii

      8.Ardie savea


      9.Arron smith

      10.Richie mounga

      11.Clarke

      12.Tuivasa-sheck

      13.Faiganuku

      14.Sevu recce

      15.Will Jordan

      Reserve

      16.dan Coles

      17.Nepo laulala

      18.Angus taavao

      19. Akira ioane

      20.hosikin sotutu

      21.tj

      22.Beauden Barrett

      23.julian savea

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      Telepi 1132 days ago

      Who's Tba

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      DM 1132 days ago

      Tony Baloney-Adams. He's a great tight head from Stewart Island.

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      Telepi 1132 days ago

      1.Nepo Laulala

      2.codie Taylor

      3.ofa tuugafasi

      4.brody retail

      5.sam whitelock

      6.akira ioane

      7.dalton papalii

      8.ardie savea

      9.arron smith

      10.beauden barrett

      11.caleb clark

      12.roger tuivasa sheck

      13.reiko ioane

      14.will jordan

      15.jordie Barrett

      16.asafo aumua

      17.george bower

      18.angust taavao

      19.scott barrett

      20.sam cane

      21.brad webber

      22.richie mounga

      23.Damian makenzie

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      adrian 1132 days ago

      Agree there needs to be a clean out. Some young hungry blood, balanced with some old grizzly old fellas. Players in position where at all possible.


      1. DeCroot

      2. Taukei’aho

      3. Tu’unagfasi

      4. Retallick

      5. Whitelock

      6. Ioane

      7. Papaili

      8. Savea - should be playing 7 but we got no better 8

      9. Smith

      10. Barrett

      11. Clark

      12. Goodhue

      13. Fainga’anuku

      14. Ioane

      15. Jordan

      16. Taylor

      17. Karl

      18. Newell

      19. S. Barrett

      20. Cane

      21. Christie

      22. Mo’unga

      23. J. Barrett

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      isaac 1132 days ago

      Sowakula at 8??

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      Marilyn 1132 days ago

      Stick to the Breakdown J K you don't have a good record for coaching or selecting

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      Maihi 1132 days ago

      Hahaha well said, thankfully he's not on the selection panel, he puts his mouth into action before he engages his brain.

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      Shane 1132 days ago

      1 ethan de groot

      2 samisoni taukeiaho

      3 ofa tuungafasi

      4 brodie reatalick

      5 sam whitelock

      6 akira ioane/ tupou vaai

      7 dalton papalli

      8 ardie savea

      9 arron smith

      10 beauden barrett

      11 sevu reece

      12 leicester fainga'anuku

      13 reiko ioane

      14 will jordan

      15 jordie barrett


      Reserves

      Falou fakatava

      Richie mounga

      Fletcher newell/tamati williams??

      Sam cane/tom christie/Luke jacobson??

      Alex nankivell

      Asafo amua

      Pita gus sowakula

      Kurt Eklund/oli jagger,jermaine ainsley??


      This is my rougly my squad that would picked n be much more powerful then last years squad,obviouly these are players that derserve it and are in form though the season to now

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      Shane 1132 days ago

      Thats got to be the worst backline i have seen named unfortunately,leicester fainga'anuku is one of the most standout and has top form,let alone his ball carrying breaking n bending defences something thats been missing since nonu and laumape left,also alex nankivell is playing better then havilli,hes so over rated as also caleb clarke,rts not ready just yet,dmk can stay in japan also,no way he derseves to be included

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      simon 1132 days ago

      Yes, the time is right for a change. Do not hesitate the FRENCH are waiting, it is time.

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      Michael 1133 days ago

      We need a realistic appraisal based on a balance between experience and talent at the All Black level.


      Certainly can't go with JK's backline based on individual performances so far. For example, BB needs to have at least an 85% game for 80 minutes.


      Let's drop the fan clubs and be a bit more objective in making selections.

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      adrian 1132 days ago

      Exactly, if we do that Mounga doesn’t play!

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      Mark 1133 days ago

      Jk I think we need a good head in the backs and communicator to help his 1st 5, so Jack Goodhue at 2nd Reiko at 13 Beaudi at 10 Jordi at 11 Reece at 14 and the man with an open license Will Jordan who has also got a g8 rugby brain at 15. Forwards. Specialists in specialist positions. Ardie at 7 a mean no.6 and a monster at 8. Dalton on the bench as cover and huge impact. S.C ain't cutting it. Keep guys in their true positions and they will give you 110% because they are not out of position.

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      Jan 1133 days ago

      Sorry JK your history of fronting a winning Blues team failed miserably they never won a game, that can only be as a result of poor selection and/or combinations. Maybe stick to commentating its more your style

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      Pedro 1038 days ago

      You may have forgotten that he was one of our best wingers.. And we all know, good players don't always make good coaches.. But he had a crack at it.. And before Macca arrived... It was many moons since any coach had tasted glory... I live in Auckland if you hadn't guessed.. 😁🇸🇻😁

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      Allan 1133 days ago

      Sorry JK, you were a great player but as a coach and selector you leave a lot to be desired. RTS is not ready, the fascination with DMK must end. CC is hugely overrated ( one good test against OZ and he was the new Jonah remember. Mounga has got to be there along with Goodhue. Sevu goes looking for work but there is nothing wrong with that. The forwards look quite solid.

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      adrian 1132 days ago

      Mounga has to be there?? The guy is a flat track bully. He’s never had a single dominant game for the ABs against a top team. He goes missing as soon as his forward pack is not dominant. When the tough gets going, Mounga goes missing😂

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      Damian 1133 days ago

      Really? DH is 10x TVS at the moment and actually needs internationals to progress. He looks bored. Fins up. What if . . .Tasman had their own super team? Spank Auckland all day... all day.

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      Jmann 1133 days ago

      yeah - he's not too far off. Whitlock needs to find form or shift aside; the same for Taylor. TVS isn't ready (and is probably too small) and his defence seems suspect. Weber is a better hb than Christie (who is #3 at present) and I'm not convinced about Ta’avao; either DeGroot or a youngster

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