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‘We’re human’: Kirwan describes the ‘enormous amount of pressure’ on All Blacks

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Playing for the All Blacks is a goal that many New Zealanders spend years dreaming of. It’s an unrivalled honour, but a privilege that comes burdened with a roller coaster of emotions.

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These mere mortals carry an almost unbearable weight of responsibility into every Test match. The All Blacks are practically looked at as Gods and are expected to play like it, too.

Rugby fans are glued to highlights reels and behind-the-scenes clips on social media whenever the All Blacks win. The taste of sweet, sweet victory is godly for players and fans alike.

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But the lows of defeat are tough.

Two-time World Rugby Player of the Year, Beauden Barrett, sent New Zealand into a state of euphoria when the All Black scored the final try of the 2015 Rugby World Cup final.

With less than two minutes to run on the clock, Barrett showed some tidy skills to score a try that will live on in All Blacks history forever. New Zealand became back-to-back World Cup winners for the first time.

Barrett let out a massive grin as he battered the ball into the air, but was tackled by a jubilant Julian Savea almost immediately afterwards. But it didn’t wipe the smile off his face.

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Barrett and the All Blacks had made history.

But that same player has experienced some dark days as a rugby player.

New Zealand were beaten by northern hemisphere heavyweights Ireland in a series on home soil last year. It was the first time that had ever happened, and the hurt was felt across Aotearoa.

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Barrett, 32, said on NZR+ docuseries All Blacks: In Their Own Words, “It’s not like someone’s died but it’s probably the next worst thing.” That quote is raw and reflective of New Zealand rugby culture.

Ahead of the All Blacks’ record defeat to the world champion Springboks at Twickenham last week, Barrett sat alongside teammates Sam Whitelock and Anton Lienert-Brown on a mental health panel.

The All Blacks trio were joined by Rugby World Cup winner Sir John Kirwan, who is a leading advocate for mental health awareness and prevention in New Zealand.

Kirwan said that these rugby players experience an “enormous amount of pressure” whenever they pull on the black jersey – and they “feel” it as well.

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“It is our national identity, it’s what we hang our hat on,” Kirwan told RugbyPass in London.

“Any Kiwi, even if he doesn’t like rugby, and he comes to the UK or he’s driving through Portugal and he stops as a bar, they say ‘where are you from,’ you say ‘New Zealand’ and they say ‘All Blacks.’

“You take that pride that we have and the players feel that responsibility, we feel that responsibility passionately that we are representing our communities are our people.

“That creates an enormous amount of pressure and we feel that pressure, and you have to learn how to manage it.”

The man known as ‘JK’ by rugby fans, pundits and players is hoping to “change the world’ as he continues to speak openly about mental health and his challenge as an All Black.

Last week in London, New Zealand Rugby launched a groundbreaking partnership with Kirwan’s proactive wellbeing platform Groov.

The company will support those involved in community and grassroots programs, as well as high-performance teams including the All Blacks and Black Ferns.

“I think it’s fundamental for our sportspeople and our leaders across all sports, not just rugby, that everyone understands that we’re human,” Kirwan added.

“To perform you’ve got to get that mental health balance right – we all go through tough times. When you go through tough times you’ve got to have…that playbook.

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“For me, it’s if you want to change the world, and as I mentioned before, we’ve got the power to change… It’s pretty exciting when great men like that come out and say it’s okay.”

In the same docuseries as Beauden Barrett, All Blacks veteran Dane Coles spoke about how a teacher at his child’s daycare was “ripping into me” after the disastrous series defeat.

“I couldn’t escape it,” Coles said. The pressure and expectation is relentless, but that’s the life of an All Black.

High-performance sport is tough. Kirwan felt the pain of defeat during a losing run with the Auckland Blues as head coach.

Kirwan won the 1987 Rugby World Cup in New Zealand and went on to coach the Blues in Super Rugby, and both Italy and Japan in the international game.

The former All Black resigned as the Blues coach on June 18, 2015, following a disastrous campaign.

“It’s really, really hard, mate. It’s hard when you’re not performing in any sport so the mental side of the game is fundamental.

“Getting that balance right, being able to switch off.

“I remember, and I was mentally well, but when the Blues weren’t going well I wasn’t sleeping. I had to readdress that and say, ‘Well, if I’m not sleeping there’s going to be this spiral.’

“You’ve got to be really conscious of how you keep yourself in that performance care, and that performance care balance.

“People sometimes don’t see you as a person, they see you as a God or as a person that can deal with what you throw at them because they must be able to do that.

“They’re human and we’re all human. It’s something that you have to learn to compartmentalise, but some people can compartmentalise naturally, and some of us can’t. It’s something that I had to learn.”

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B.J. Spratt 671 days ago

Yeah! Andrew it must be so tough being an All Black. Most young kids growing up in New Zealand have no idea who the All Blacks are and what they do.


I agree with Shaylen. A bit of your soul may die Andrew but most of us couldn't care less. We are excellent at a lot of other Sports and in 10 years Basketball will be our National Sport.


I am 68 and I will never see New Zealand win another World Rugby Cup.


When you consider over 75% of All Blacks will suffer from CTE, the odd loss is really not really the problem, we should be worried about.


I love watching Rugby. Would I want my grandsons to play it?


Hell no! The New Zealand Rugby Union thinks CTE is part of a Physical Education Degree.


Most responsible young parents won't allow their kids to play rugby, hence the 25% drop in player participation in the last 10 years in New Zealand.


I am destined to watch old videos of our "Great All Black Teams"

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Andrew 672 days ago

Its rough being a test player in the only global sport we are consistently any good at. If the ABs become just another side in test rugby as it appears

to be happening, a bit of NZs soul will die with it.

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SK 671 days ago

Mate what about netball, you have won multiple world titles there. NZ aint bad at cricket either. You have made multiple finals there in global events. Pretty decent hockey team as well. Rugby isnt the only thing NZ is good at.

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SC 672 days ago

All Blacks and Springboks are use to ridiculously high expectations by the countrymen.


Let’s see if Ireland and France can cope with the weight of being expected to win the World Cup and the pressure that brings.


History says they will not.

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Tk 672 days ago

I've always had a huge amount of respect for JK and how he has pioneered the mental health conversation on NZ rugby.

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Hammer Head 36 minutes ago
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I agree with most of your thoughts. I think it’s unfair to compare Manie, Sacha and Polly.


Polly has what none of them have - experience, 2 gold medals. Each has their place in the team. Horses for courses and all that.


That the Springboks have 3 good options at 10 compared to most other teams that barely have one, is a good place to be. Considering we went to the RWC with Manie with <10 caps.


That Manie can have a great game and terrorize a teams defenses or have a mare and get replaced by someone with the dependency and quality of a Polly is strength.


Manie has X factor and I think in past Boks sides he’d be in the wilderness by now. I hope he gets to 50 caps with Boks. He’s a top guy.


Sacha has all the makings of a Polly/Manie hybrid. He has X-Factor and can control the game and was entrusted with both AB tests last year. He’s done some amazing stuff this year and it’s crazy how young he is.


Training with Tony Brown, Felix Jones, Polly, Damian, Willie, Manie is going to make him greater. Polly came through in his youth as a player with X-Factor. But that tends to get coached out of our 10s. Hopefully not anymore.


Whether the boks play an expansive game, a conservative game or something in between is going to come down to playing the conditions. Playing the situation. That’s real maturity.


And as we Saffers know - world cups are won by teams with solid 10s. End of.


The Boks last night looked undecided on attack because of an excellent Italy defence.


Their defence should not be scoffed at. It was excellent during the 6 Nations. It’s a strength they are building a platform off and it was a good test for our attacking mindset.


But our bread and butter, attacks off solid set pieces, that lead to KLA’a magnificent try (for example) is what won us back-to-back world cups. That and our defence. Defence against teams that thrive in broken play.


Which is the only real negative I took from our rusty performance last night. That we ran in 6 tries and conceded 3 tries is what will be most irritating to the Bok coaching team.


However, we must not forget that the type of defence we play is highly physically/cardio demanding and takes time to gel and click perfectly. It’s not going to click in a few weeks with players joining from all over the world.


And it wasn’t tested against the Baabaas.


Which is why these 4 tests before the RC are so important. Gives us time to work on the rust.


I think that’s why Rassie has threatened to rip up the selection plans for next weeks games. He’s probably intimating to the fact that rotating the squad is a good idea unless more game time is needed for the group to nail down the structures the coaches have given them.


The defensive structures were not nailed down last night. Lineouts weren’t perfect. Breakdowns were messy.


it’s back to the basics and practice makes perfect against Italy 2. The fancy 6 tries looks much better when you don’t concede any. And the Boks were excellent at not conceding tries last year.


Because when our defence works - it’s suffocating.

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