Last-gasp Falcons beat Saints, Sale see off Worcester

I suspect you are right on all counts Nick.

That includes HMP v other #10s, and he didn't even play.

Coaching?…right too 👍

But D4 thickos keep spewing about him - when he can’t lace Crowley’s boots on his best day.

By all accounts Les does not do tracksuit work, and he will not replace what Joe does now. So that coach alongside him is the key piece of the jigsaw.

Creighton is a good communicator and organizer and prob better in that aspect than the Qld guys. The sort of 10 Joe is known to like. You do not have to have X-factor in every position, esp if they do not have the ability to manage the team tactically and deliver the pictures the coach wants to see.

Whilst I think Lynagh and Harry McLaughlin-Phillips have it in them for a winning Schmidt team and a future Kiss team, I’m not so sure about Creighton.

I think the reasons why Kiss let him go and Mackellar wanted him are the same. He, like Lolesio is good at passing the ball and kicking, but doesn't create things. As he showed last night, Creighton is also good at backing up (and a great flick on pass), but leaves the creativity to others.

When they do click, the Waratahs rely on counter-attack from Jorgensen, Kelleway and Sua’ali’i…plus other bits of brilliance from Jorgensen and Sua’ali’i. Same style as the Brumbies I’d argue, and same style as Rennies team after Cooper.

They (the Wallabies) really need someone to set up others, or they be too predictable v the Lions,…and going forward after that.