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'Let's be honest, some of these guys aren't proven': Ex-Crusader on All Blacks XV selections
By Sam Smith
Former Crusaders halfback Bryn Hall has offered his view on the All Blacks XV as a player who experienced a similar plight to Super Rugby players like Chiefs winger Shaun Stevenson.
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A New Zealand under-20 rep in 2013, Hall moved from the Blues to the Crusaders and played six seasons for the Christchurch club, winning six Super Rugby titles under Scott Robertson.
He was capped eight times for the Maori All Blacks but wasn’t given the chance to play for the All Blacks despite his domestic success with the Crusaders during his time in New Zealand.
After 93 appearances for the Crusaders, he called time on his New Zealand career in 2022 and moved to Japan to take up a deal with the Shizuoka Blue Revs.
“Having this [All Blacks XV] team, it gives you a greater understanding of where you are in the scheme of things,” Hall told Sky Sport NZ’s The Breakdown.
“If you don’t make the All Blacks, you are probably thinking ‘am I fourth or fifth? Am I an injury away?’
“And to be honest, you don’t get a lot of communication from coaches or even from other people if you are in the reckoning.
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“What you know now if you are not in the All Blacks XV, you are kind of being told that you are sixth or seventh.”
A number of selections in the All Blacks XV raised more questions than answers with a host of relatively inexperienced NPC players picked under the All Black brand without becoming established Super Rugby players yet.
Sowakula, capped by the All Blacks just months ago, wasn’t selected in either squad while form players in the NPC like Shaun Stevenson and Canterbury’s Tom Christie were also overlooked.
Hall said the danger now is that those overlooked have every incentive to end their New Zealand careers after learning how far down the pecking order they stand.
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“Pita Gus Sowakula, Shaun Stevenson, DuPlessis Kirifi, Tom Christie, guys like that,” Hall said.
“Now I can understand Tom, he’s a bit younger, but you look at guys like Pita Gus and Stevenson, guys that have plying their trade for a really long time that can’t even get into the All Blacks XV now.”
“For me personally, it would give me an incentive to say ‘you know what, it’s my time to go’ because I’m not even ranked in the top five or six in the position.
“It’s difficult, let’s be honest, some of these guys that have been selected aren’t proven.
“They are not proven at Super Rugby level and have been selected as a development player.
“That’s no disrespect to the Crusaders boys that have been picked in that team, but a lot of those guys haven’t been proven at Super Rugby level or even Bunnings NPC for long periods of time.”
All THREE selectors take the "blame" for the whole squad.
I said that Foster can take some of the blame three days ago!
Yes. As ONE of THREE selectors. Well done, you finally got there.
So surely has to take some responsibility for the selection?
Sheesh buddy, why are you letting me live rent free in your mind? Let it go. Ryan is but ONE selector out of THREE. Quit while you're behind.
What parallel universe are you operating in? You say that all three of the selected Cantab props are solely tightheads when Brewis and Williams both played loosehead in the final. You say that Gus plays both sides when he's only ever played two matches there and hated it. You think that Schmidt is a Chiefs man when he coached BoP for two years compared to five for the Blues and years of growing up in and playing for Manawatu. And your central point is that the only Cantab and only forward on the selection panel played no part in the selection of five Cantab forwards under 23, when none were selected from anywhere else!
Quit while you're behind bud.
That's not what I said at all.
Did you see those NZ XV forwards get dominated by the Wellington no names?
So according to you Foster just listens to Ryan & Schmidt is Ryan's 'yes man'. Okaaay then lol.
I've already explained that it's also Foster's mistake for listening to Ryan and the problem of picking five forwards under 23 from one province and none from anywhere else.
Frankly there are many omissions.
Pita Gus the most obvious. Peter umanga Jensen another.
Good enough for tests one day. Not good enough for 6th choice the next.
Again, where is "Ryan's big mistake" when he is but ONE of THREE selectors. Also, given that they haven't even left NZ yet, how can we know such a "big mistake" exists? Ridiculous!
Tana sacked Bryn & Razor rang him the next day. Six Super Rugby Championships later, thanks Tana.
Really interesting article - I must say since 2018 there has been a real inconsistency in the ABs consistent selection.
Remember 2018 when everyone wanted to give Richie a go at #10 - Hansen consisently left him out. Only starting the experiment with dual players in 2019. This meant Mo'unga went into RWC19 with less than 15 caps.
Remember 2020 when everyone wanted to give Jordie a go at #15 - Fozzie consisently played him on the wing. Earlier this year Fozzie said he didnt see Jordie as a #12 - but WOW what a performance
Well sadly Fosters the coach and uses players the players foster selected have hardly played rugby in the NPC where some of the better players are.
Sadly the blinkers come on , when selecting players look at the Irish Test series , people soon forget, this close to the World Cup .
winnng team...winning ways!
Good on Hall for pointing this out. This is Ryan's first big mistake, imagine the howls of derision if Foster had picked a bunch of unproven Chiefs kids?
Ryan's not a selector genius, he's AB Forwards coach. The AB selectors chose this AB XV squad though no doubt Ryan would've had some input as to OPINION.