Nathan Hughes' bold Pacific Islands prediction for World Cup 2023
Ex-England back-rower Nathan Hughes has declared himself available to be called up to play at Test level by Fiji. World Rugby have recently altered the eligibility rules governing the international game, permitting players capped by tier-one nations to be able to represent their countries of origin provided there has been a three-year stand-down period.
Hughes earned the last of his 22 caps for England in March 2019, so essentially he would now be clear to play for his native Fiji provided World Rugby grants his request. The 30-year-old would like to be considered for selection by Fijian boss Vern Cotter but admits there is a lot of competition for places, especially with the Drua enjoying its first season in Super Rugby Pacific.
Hughes was 16 when he left Fiji for the first time, flying to New Zealand for a two-year scholarship at Kelston Boys' High School in Auckland. That led to his post-school involvement with the Auckland NPC team before he took up a 2013 offer to join Wasps in the English Premiership.
He then qualified under the three-year residency rule to play for Eddie Jones' England but having not been selected since the 2019 Six Nations, he is one of numerous Pacific Islands players poised to take advantage of the new World Rugby Test level eligibility criteria that now permits players to play for their homeland despite being previously capped elsewhere.
"Yes," replied Hughes when asked on the latest episode of RugbyPass Offload if he wanted to play for Fiji after representing England from 2016 through to 2019 across three autumn series campaigns, three Six Nations and two summer tours.
"That is why I was behind this whole change. You have different young players coming up in England and stuff like that and it is good to see, and if we can get the opportunity to go and play for our place of birth I'll definitely put up my hand but at the same time, there is a lot of competition in Fiji as well. This team the Drua, it's amazing to see. There is so much talent in Fiji and the thing that surprises people, Ben Ryan put it in his documentary when he went to Fiji to pick a sevens team for the Olympics.
"He picked a team and they got beaten in the local comp there. He was like, 'Where do all these people come from, the bushes, the interior in Fiji? The national team is losing to local teams'. There is so much talent in Fiji but the pathway (wasn't there) to get out of Fiji. It's nice to see the Drua come in now and it's nice to see the boys can come through."
Going back and playing for their country of origin is a conversation that Hughes explained he has had with numerous people. "I talk to a lot of boys. There are a few at Bristol. You have got Charles (Piutau), Stevie (Luatua), Roko at Bath [Semesa Rokoduguni] and I think Billy and Mako (Vunipola) as well.
"We have these chats and everyone is fully supporting that because imagine if all these people go back and play for their home nation how good the Pacific teams would be. It's scary to see Tonga's backline. You have (Ngani) Laumape at twelve, Malakai Fekitoa at 13, Charles, Israel Folau, these are world-class players who played for tier-one nations and for the pathway to be open for them to go and play for Tonga, the Pacific Island teams are going to push the tier-one nations in the World Cup."
The Bristol No8 Hughes, who is currently on loan at Bath and linked with a switch to Clermont next season, only started playing rugby at the age of 16 as he was into hockey prior to that and it was after a short few years playing that his career was at a crossroads - to stay in the academy at Auckland or take up an offer in England.
"There were only four years of playing rugby and they [Auckland] said, 'We will give you one more year in the academy'. My agent said there is an opportunity at Wasps or Bath. I didn't play eight, I only played six and lock and I'd no clue about playing eight. They were like, 'Wasps wants an eight, Bath wants a six/eight'. I was alright, 'I will play eight so I went back and played club rugby at eight, I played one game I think and then flew to the UK, came to Wasps and the rest is history. I never played six or lock ever again."
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Go to commentsWhat do you mean should?
Are you asking these questions because you think they are important reasons a player should decide to represent a country?
I think that is back the front. They are good reasons why someone 'would' be able to choose Fiji (say in the case of Mo'unga's cousin who the Drua brought into their environment), but not reason's why they "should". Those need to be far more personal imo.
If you think it was me suggesting he "should" play for Fiji, I certainly wasn't suggesting that. I was merely suggesting he would/could because ther'ye very close to his heart with his dad having represented them.
I did go on to say the right sort of environment should be created to encourage them to want to represent Fiji (as with case of their european stars it's always a fine balance between wanting to play for them and other factors (like compared with personal develop at their club). but that is also not trying to suggest those players should want to play for Fiji simply because you make the prospect better, you're simply allowing for it to happen.
TLDR I actually sent you to the wrong post, I was thinking more about my reply to HU's sentiments with yours. Instead of running you around I'll just paste it in
Actually I can't remember if it was that message or whether it indeed was my hypothetical Fiji example that I wanted to suggest would improve the International game, not cheapen it.
I suppose I have to try and explain that idea further now. So you say it cheapens the game. They game is already "cheap" when a nation like Fiji is only really allowed to get their full team going in a WC year. Or even it's the players themselves only caring about showing up in a WC year. To me this is a problem because a Fiji campaign/season isn't comparable to their competitors (in a situation where they're say ranked in the top 8. Take last year for instance. Many stars were absent of the Pacific Nations Cup, for whatever reason, but hey, when their team is touring a big EU nation like England or Ireland, wow suddenly theyre a high profile team again and they get the stars back.
Great right? No. Having those players come back was probably detrimental to the teams performance. My idea of having Sotutu and Bower encouraged (directly or indirectly) to play for Fiji is merely as a means to an end, to give the Flying Fijians the profile to both enrich and more accurately reflect the international game. You didn't really state what you dislike but it's easy to guess, and yes, this idea does utilize that aspect which does devalue the game in other cases, so I wanted to see if this picture would change that in this example (just and idea I was throwing out their, like I also said in my post, I don't actually think Sotutu or any of these players are going anywhere, even Ioane might still be hopeful of being slected).
The idea again, raise the visibility on the PNC so that can stand as a valued tournament on it's own and not require basic funded by WR to continue, but not enough to involve all the best players (even Japan treated it as a chance to play it's amatuers). Do this by hosting the PI island pool in places like Melbourne every other year, include some very high profile and influential team in it like an All Black team, and yes, by the nations getting together and creating ways to increase it's popularity by say asking individuals like Sotutu and Bower to strength it's marketability, with the hopeful follow on affect that stars like Botia and Radradra always want to (and can) represent their country. With Fiji as the example, but do it with Samoa and Tonga as well. They will need NZ and Aus (Japan) assistance to make a reality imo.
I don't believe this cheapens the game, I believe it makes it more valued as you're giving players the choice of who they chose to play for rather than basing it off money. Sotutu would never have forgone his paycheck to play for Fiji instead of NZ at the beginning, so you should viewed his current choice as 'cheap'
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