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Opinion - Why many people hate Leinster

Leinster's Irish centre Garry Ringrose (L) talks to Leinster's Irish lock James Ryan during a captain's run at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin on May 19, 2023 on the eve of the Champions Cup rugby union final against La Rochelle. (Photo by Paul ELLIS / AFP) (Photo by PAUL ELLIS/AFP via Getty Images)

Not all champions are loved by the masses. Floyd Mayweather, Novak Djokovic, Manchester City, the New England Patriots; no matter what some superstar athletes and teams achieve there will always be a sizable portion of haters who’d want nothing more than to see them humbled by their own failure.

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Leinster are unquestionably in this camp. To many in Ireland they are the benefactors of a skewed class system that privileges their Dublin base and their vast catchment area. This narrative persists despite Leinster’s concerted efforts to rid themselves of this label.

After claiming a fourth consecutive Pro14 title in 2021, winger James Lowe said he wanted his club to be hated as much as the Crusaders in Christchurch. He argued that perennial success for the Canterbury franchise had fostered well-earned antagonism and Lowe seemed to regard hostility from outsiders as a badge of honour.

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But that narrative only works when you’re winning. The reason dynastic organisations and all conquering individuals can absorb the darts that are thrown at them is because they serve as grist to the mill. They help keep the wheels turning in the drive towards even more success. If the flood of titles and accolades dry up, those galactic villains quickly become pantomime scoundrels. What was fear morphs into derision.

Leinster have painted themselves into a corner. After dominating the United Rugby Championship for the second campaign in a row, they once again botched a home semi-final against a team they’d beaten in the regular season.

Last year it was the Bulls who produced one of the best performances by a South African team to turn them over in Dublin. This time it was Munster at the Aviva, a ground that should be for all of Ireland but has been commandeered by one province. All that graft which saw them win 88 per cent of their matches, score 82 tries and concede a miserly 42, all that blood and sweat meant nothing because of one Jack Crowley drop goal.

To be fair to them, that ‘B team’ that went down to their provincial rivals was largely the same as the one that took them to the semi-finals. Still, a heavier contingent of first choicers would have shown their seriousness in the competition and prevented another humiliating premature exit. How can the rest of us not feel that the URC means very little to Leinster and their fans?

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“You don’t see many URC or Pro14s or whatever you have on the jersey,” said Leinster’s prop, Andrew Porter, this week. “You see those stars that are on the jersey so that’s the thing we are looking forward to the most this week.”

Porter was of course talking about the embellishments above the badge that are stitched on after a European Champions Cup win. Toulouse have the most with five. Leinster are one behind with four but haven’t added to their collection since 2018. This is the big one. This is the one they covet above all else. They’re playing at home and have arguably the most well-settled match-day 23 anywhere on the continent with 10 players possessing more than 100 caps for the club.

The decision to rest those senior players against Munster will be vindicated should they get the better of La Rochelle. That is no gimme. The French outfit have a formidably imposing pack with some brutally efficient finishers out wide. They’re the defending champions – after beating Leinster at the death last year – and in Ronan O’Gara – their head coach and a two-time winner as a player with Munster – they have a man who will relish the chance to embarrass Leo Cullen’s men on their own patch.

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Andrew Porter of Leinster after his side’s victory in the Heineken Champions Cup Semi-Final match between Leinster and Toulouse at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin. (Photo By Harry Murphy/Sportsfile via Getty Images)
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Porter’s comments have amplified the animosity directed at him and his teammates. And rightly so. It is arrogant to dismiss a tournament as inferior without having won it. Yes, they waltzed through a series of Pro14s in second gear, but the introduction of the South Africans means that it is an entirely different competition, not merely a rebranded one.

Leinster’s attitude might be regarded by some ultra cynics as disdain. A less harsh view would simply point out that there is a natural hierarchy of values. Either way, it would be taken more seriously if Leinster had bossed the competition. Their failure to do so proves that they no longer have an inalienable right to field weakened teams as they sleepwalk over their compatriots on the British and Irish Isles.

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The South African teams have reshaped northern hemisphere rugby. They’ve raised the standard of a league that was streets behind the English Premiership and the French Top 14. It’s no coincidence that 50 per cent of the teams that progressed from the group this year toil in the furnace that is the URC.

Porter’s assertion feels further out of place given the groundswell of enthusiasm in South Africa. It took less than three hours to sell out the 55,000 seater Cape Town stadium. They’d have packed in even more if the space was available The Stormers’ title defence clearly matters.

Having made the controversial choice to leave Super Rugby to unite with teams in a different hemisphere, the onus was on the South Africans to earn their keep. They’ve done just that. Another win for the Stormers would not only cement their status as one of the best club sides in South African rugby history but also serve as an ideal launchpad for a Champions Cup assault next season.

There will be few fans in South Africa supporting Leinster on Saturday. La Rochelle are an infinitely more likeable organisation. But that is only part of the equation here.

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JS 733 days ago

When smug tossers like Sexton gets into ‘altercations’ with coaches in the players tunnel at half time when he’s not even stripped to play ….. then yeah him and his Dublin ‘tribe’ deserve all the shade they gett’n.


This behaviour is classic privileged brattish ego-led.

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Martin 734 days ago

People don't like Leinster because they are an absolutely dominant force, period. Few teams in the world have performed as they have in the last decade.

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Barry 734 days ago

That didn't age well

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Roy 734 days ago

I don't know many people that hate Leinster, I know a few that are indifferent. The structure of rugby means they get a mickey mouse league so they can rest players for the games that matter. Not great for the league but perfect for Leinster because it gives you get players a pathway. It's "unfair" to clubs from other leagues but that's not Leinster's fault they are playing the hand they are dealt... But that's why there is indifference to them.

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dave 734 days ago

What a twat.

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Rugbybugby 734 days ago

What a sad little article. The animosity this Afrikaaner describes certainly can’t be felt in Europe in my experience. Maybe in kleptocratic South Africa they hate Leinster but that is not the rugby spirit that defines the EUROPEAN champions cup. The Irish union is well run and that is why all 4 provinces are strong. Lest we forget Stormers weren’t given an easy ride by Connacht, who are Ireland’s traditional 4th rugby province. This article just represents the extreme jealousy of Ireland’s fine organisation. Sure look, Cape Town doesn’t even have a proper pitch.

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Barry 734 days ago

How you feeling this evening bud? Me... I'm looking forward to watching my Stormers playing in the final next week at our Cape Town Stadium. Let me know what excuses your boys will come up with for a second season in a row without a trophy! Losing at home too!

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Ronan 734 days ago

Pathetic article. Leinster don’t have to focus on the URC if they think they can win Europe. You can guarantee if another URC team was in the CC final and had sacrificed a URC quarter or semi to focus on that no one would bat an eyelid. People using Porters comment just to have another go at Leinster it’s been the same all season. The CC is comfortably the bigger competition of the two and we all know it.

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Barry 734 days ago

Your comment has not aged well. Yet another season with no trophy for Leinster. We heard all the excuses after the URC exit and much of it revolved around focus on Champions Cup being the focus. What now? A loss at home! I look forward to the excuses.

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Stuart 734 days ago

The European Rugby Champions Cup is the premier club competition in the World. If a club decides to focus on winning the top competition at the expense of a less prestigious one, that surely should be lauded. Leinster have won the Pro-14 / URC eight times and been runner up 5. They were beaten in the 2023 final by Munster, not one of the new South African teams, all of whom they beat on the way to the final.


Leinster are a home-grown team, who have only three foreign players signed to them. They have been supporting schools and club development for two decades, long before they won a Heineken Cup, to create the system they now have. If the South African schools rugby system can't produce enough players to make up four competitive teams, that's not Leinster's fault.


La Rochelle have used effective fundraising to create a winning club. What players have they developed? Their team is bought and paid-for, albeit by local money.

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mark 734 days ago

Whilst I agree about prioritising the champions cup get your facts right


The didn’t lose in the 2023 final…. They didn’t get there, they lost in the semi final. They choked! Again!!! just like they did last year to the South African bulls!


Also you didn’t beat the new South African teams on the way to the final. You drew at home to the stormers… and got spanked by the bulls.

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robespierre 734 days ago

Nasty article, Leinster's amazing system of generating home-grown players benefits all provinces in Ireland. They also haven't commandeered the Aviva, it was used for a variety of reasons and you'd see it packed full of Munster fans in a big Leinster Munster game.


Leinster don't have a billionaire owner, they don't buy in rock star players, they work hard to develop local lads (and not all from posh Dublin schools either, see Henshaw, Furlong, Osborne, O'Brien). I would have thought that would be admired.

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Jim 734 days ago

Not sure what you’re smoking. Henshaw came from Connacht, O’Brien went to Newbridge College. Osborne & Furlong are the exception to the rule. They may be local (with the exception of Gibson-Park & Lowe) but Leinster’s system is pretty much completely based on private schools. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but let’s get the facts right.

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TheUltimate 734 days ago

He is not criticizing Leinster's system he is criticizing their attitude towards the URC. Most people know Leinster is not a leach on the league.


Look at Leinster's attendances for the QF and SF of the URC. It's really pathetic. (Yes HCC tickets were expensive but any other year it would be the same).


Stormers sold more tickets for a Connacht SF (A team most South Africans don't even know the location of) than Leinster's QF and SF combined.


Credit to Munster for beating them because I think the Stormers deserve a home URC final more than a team that couldn't care less. (Had Leinster got the final I think they would have sold just over a half of what the Stormers did)

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