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Slur allegation made in heated exchange between Curry and Mbonambi

Tom Curry of England walks through the players tunnel at half-time during the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between England and South Africa at Stade de France on October 21, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by David Ramos - World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

Questions are being asked over the context to a number of heated exchanges between England flanker Tom Curry and South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi.

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The Springboks scrapped their way into the Rugby World Cup with a gutsy 16-15 win over England, who despite coming in in as heavy underdogs led the game for the best part of 80 minutes.

It was a feisty affair that boiled over at times, with a few all-in-handbags between the sides spilling out in the first half, handbags which kicked off again after the final whistle, with Owen Farrell and Willie Le Roux getting into, although the pair shook hands a few moments later, suggesting it wasn’t the most bad-tempered of interactions.

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    Farrell described it as a ā€˜misunderstanding’ after the game.

    However, it was an earlier prickly exchange between Curry and Mbonambi around the 23rd-minute mark that caught the eye of some viewers. Words were exchanged between the pair which enraged Curry to the extent that the Sale Sharks player brought a complaint to match-day referee Ben O’Keeffe.

    The exchange between Curry and O’Keeffe was picked up by the ref mic, and in it Curry accuses the hooker of racially abusing him.

    Curry said to O’Keeffe: ā€œSir, Sir, if their hooker calls me a white c*** what do I do?ā€ to which O’Keeffe replies: ā€œNothing please,ā€ before suggesting that the comment may well have been picked up by the match day audio.

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    It was far from a common exchange, as it’s rare enough that a player will approach a referee over comments made during a match by another player.

    Nothing came of it at the time but after the final whistle was blown as Curry put his hand out the shake the hooker’s hand, it was refused.

    Mbonambi looked pretty annoyed, walking straight off the pitch in the direction of the changing rooms, seemingly not bothering to partake in the post-match handshaking or pitchside fan engagement, at least not initially at least.

    Curry confirmed to reporters after the match that something had been said, although he refused to elaborate on exactly what: ā€œYeah… No, it doesn’t need to be talked about. Listen, I’m not talking about it now.ā€

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    Whether any more comes of the incident – be it due to an official complaint or a citing officer complaint – remains to be seen.

    If Mbonambi is banned, it would make life difficult for the Springboks, as it would leave them with just Deon Fourie – a back row moonlighting as a hooker – as a stand-in.

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    DA 620 days ago

    I would rather stay and know that I am in your head. I go wherever and whenever I want but I don’t like walking the pavements because sometimes they stink

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    Mark 620 days ago

    Are you being held in the UK against your will Derek.

    There's no travel restrictions mate, you can leave anytime you want.

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    DA 620 days ago

    that’s why people don’t like the slimy whinging stinking poms

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    Mark 620 days ago

    I hope you're a patient fella.

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    Pierre 630 days ago

    Please put up the video evidence of Rugby Pass with sound and all so that it can be cleared up once and for all a heated exchange between the two players I can't find it on Stan Sport perhaps you have video evidence to show us all.

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    rayana 631 days ago

    In South Africa one of the official languages is Afrikaans and Kant means side and because the England team was wearing white he meant to say the white side = white Kant šŸ™ƒ

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    Lloyd 631 days ago

    Thanks for that explanation Rayana. I could see that Tom Curry was a bit confused at the time and Bongi probably assumed that Tom might have been a bit concussed. He was only reminding Tom that he was playing for the ā€œwhite sideā€, not South Africa. What a nice guy that Bongi is!

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    Jaco 632 days ago

    If Bongi indeed used those exact words, I will be extremely surprised. He is the most mild mannered, friendly guy. Would love to know what Curry did or said to deserve that.

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    Poe 631 days ago

    Good people have a temper/ do silly things too.

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    Billy 632 days ago

    Imagine the international outrage if he misgendered him.

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    Poe 631 days ago

    Less . Much less would be my guess

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    rayana 632 days ago

    Glad you googled šŸ˜…šŸ‘šŸ½

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    rayana 632 days ago

    šŸ˜…šŸ˜…šŸ˜…

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    CB 632 days ago

    Are you Rassie in disguise 🄸? You've really made your point though by throwing insults, try not to be a sore loser ;)

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    CB 632 days ago

    Do you mean ā€œgo dry your tearsā€? Making as much sense as your comment about sore losers šŸ˜€

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    Ting Tong 632 days ago

    Forgetting the ifs and maybes of the actual situation, If Curry was just called a C, then would he take that as abuse?

    If he was called an English C would that be racist or just abuse?

    What we can deduce is that Curry is a weak C for complaining to the referee and not dealing with the matter himself.

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    Poe 631 days ago

    If he had of been called an Anemic nether region people would laugh along. Words carry different meanings and significances. Language is like that. Best to look at what was actually said and leave the comparisons out.

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    Hilary 632 days ago

    If he'd dealt with the matter himself, he'd have been sent off!

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    rayana 632 days ago

    šŸ˜…

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    B.J. Spratt 632 days ago

    ā€œIf anyone is affected by sledging on the field they shouldn’t be playing Rugby.


    Then an Englishmen called ā€œCurryā€ complaining about Racism.


    My favourite was Fitzpatrick. He was the best.


    You sound like you would react to a ā€œsledge Ruckaaā€ and judging by by the way you write, I can understand why?


    A bit rich, Pom’s complaining about Racism don’t you think?


    World Rugby need ā€œa stormā€ right now to take the heat of ā€œBig Bad Billy Beaumont and his partner in crime Bernard Laporte.


    Anyway hope it’s a great Final. No Red cards.


    All Blacks Start Sensationally 3 quick tries. Game Over!


    NZ by 35+

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    Poe 631 days ago

    Racism isn't sledging. There is a line. If one wants to play rough with language one lives by the sword and dies by the sword. Rugby isn't a free pass from being a reasonable human being.

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    ruckaa 632 days ago

    Fitzy unrelenting lip lashing he gave to his opponents he must have had so many ā€˜extra special treatments’ in his 92 tests so tough so legend i also hope its a great final hmm us by eight

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    GG 632 days ago

    If the Aussie cricket side were reported for their chirping over the last 10 years, they would probably not had enough players in their squad to put a full team on the pitch. Terrible language.

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    Head high tackle 632 days ago

    No arguement but chirping and racial insults are very different. If he did it I hope he goes for a long rest. I do want proof tho.

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    GG 632 days ago

    Been a tough route for Saffa- having played at certain stages this WC against the 2 Nd, 3 rd, 4 th, 5 th best sides and now face the ABs in the final. Not sure any side has had to take a route like this in the past. Tough draw.

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    Head high tackle 632 days ago

    LOL The ABs played and beat no 1, 2 weeks ago and now have to play and beat No 1 again to win the Cup.

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    GG 632 days ago

    Our side looked emotionally and physically stuffed. I feel we might need to freshen up the team, and find some crucial energy. Also hope the Paris weather plays ball for all so we can have a great game. While I am fully behind the Saffa team, I hope for a great game played properly with no cynical approach and hopefully the Boks play their part. May the best side win and may it be a game worthy of a final.

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    TheNinyo 632 days ago

    Yeah SA has had some real tough matches , England got an easy road to it ,and even at that SA when they threw those subs in Looked like a new team had just appeared , I'd love to see SA win now , I'm Irish btw lol , I just couldn't stand the gloating from NZ lol !

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    GG 632 days ago

    be nice to focus on rugger. An interesting fact someone showed me- we have played 5 WC knockout games against England - 400 minutes of rugger- and England have yet to score a try. We played crap, and England played well, and we still won. Crazy.

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    daddyfarrell 632 days ago

    Wit kant in afrikaans is white side. It is not unusual for South Africans to mix languages so when it was england’s ball Bongi probably said white kant and as Tom is not South African and is English and likes whinging thought it was directed at him🤦

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    Hilary 632 days ago

    Since when has Curry been known for whinging? Farrell yes, Curry no.

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    EW 632 days ago

    Sounds something an Englishman would say, not a South African, sounds very un-African?

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    sorrel 1 hour ago
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    The whole thing was absolutely delightful from a scrummaging perspective. Both teams were 100% certain they could just push the other team off the ball and both teams scrummed like it. I love the dark arts tactical battles, but there’s something really refreshing about a game where both the teams in the pushing contest just want to push. But, yeah, South Africa were the clear winners of that part of the game.


    Scrums went as follows in the first game (I’m going from a handy dandy compilation video I made from screen recordings so I don’t have exact ref calls)

    1. Canadian feed - Reset. On second feed, Canada gets the ball away, but South African scrum pushes into them

    2. South African feed - South Africa gets the ball away clean

    3. Canadian feed - Free kick to South Africa

    4. South African feed - South Africa pulls the ball forward in the scrum a few meters, gets advantage, and gets the ball away clean

    5. Canadian feed - Canada gets the ball away clean.

    6. South African feed - South Africa push Canada backwards, but give away a penalty

    7. South African feed - South Africa pulls the ball forward in the scrum maybe 10ish meters, gets advantage, and gets the ball away clean

    8. South African feed - Free kick to Canada

    9. South African feed - South Africa gets the ball away clean

    10. South African feed - South Africa makes meters in the scrum and gets the ball away clean

    11. South African feed - Reset. On second feed, South Africa makes meters in the scrum, gets advantage, and gets the ball away clean

    12. Canadian feed - South Africa push them backwards, but give away a penalty

    13. Canadian feed - 75 minutes into the game, Canada pulls the ball forward at the scrum and get advantage


    I haven’t done such thorough analysis for the second test, but if you enjoy scrumming at all, you should really watch these games. They’re the sort of games where you look forwards to knock ons because the scrums are so good.

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