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Report: France planning to stiff 2025 tour to play All Blacks

Players of France look on as they watch players of New Zealand perform the Haka prior to the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Pool A match between France and New Zealand at Stade de France on September 08, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by David Ramos - World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

France head coach Fabien Galthie has laid bare his plans for the next Rugby World Cup cycle in 2027, which includes short-changing New Zealand fans when they tour down under in 2025.

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They are planning to leave up to 20 players behind in France for the tour, most of their stars including Romain Ntamack, Antoine Dupont, Damian Penaud, Grégory Alldritt, and Peato Mauvaka among others.

“We follow a hundred players. But above all we have identified a ‘premium’ group of 20 players,” he said in an interview with L’Equipe.

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“We want them to have consistent development. We want to work hand in hand with the league and the clubs. Our goal is for players to be able to give the best of themselves in the French team, but also in club. We want to go further while taking into account the challenges of the clubs.”

“Players will benefit from four mandatory weeks off and four weeks without matches,” he added.

The Top 14 is one of the most demanding domestic leagues in the world, which makes the playing load for French eligible players one of the highest around the globe.

The decision to leave high profile players behind is a move to manage that load more effectively.

It was well publicised just how many injuries the French team dealt with during the lead in to the Rugby World Cup, with an extensive list of players racing the clock to be fit.

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France also suffered from the loss of flyhalf Romain Ntamack on the eve of the World Cup during a warm-up match.

However, Galthie insisted that this is nothing new with the summer tours used in this way already. The 2021 tour of Australia featured a team of unrecognisable players with very few big names.

“We built on trust while adjusting the management of the international season by choosing to rest our ‘premium’ during the summer tours,” he said.

“It was a first step. We want to go even further which will mean that we will go on tour in the summer of 2025 in New Zealand without our ‘premium’ players.

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“It’s been like this for four years. Why change strategy? Because we’re travelling to the All Blacks? You have to be consistent.”

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CM 345 days ago

We should just oppose with Maori All Blackks and/or All Black XV or U20 and possibly Black Ferns. I’d guarantee sell outs every game.


Also NO. Dupont is not anywhere near MCaw as the GOAT. Hes closing in on Carlos Spencer but that’s all. Stop getting over excited.

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Jacque 345 days ago

Funniest comment i’ve read this week!

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Ruby 347 days ago

The northern hemisphere seems convinced Antoine Dupont is the greatest player ever, the southern hemisphere disagrees because we have barely seen him play, have fun keeping it that way.

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Jacque 345 days ago

Probably not EVER, but currently.

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Rugby 101 - Ed Pye 347 days ago

No problem - Just prepare for a 50pt hiding that will scar your non-premium players beyond repair

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Soliloquin 347 days ago

In Top 14, you can play up to 29 games if you. Add 8 potential games of Champions Cup. And 11 of international tests (5 for the 6 Nations, 3 for summer tests and 3 for fall one).

That’s potentially 48 games.


On average, players from the big nations (SA, ABs, Ireland, England) play 20 games/season. In France it’s 27.

Multiply it by the number of consecutive seasons, and you’ll have burnt-out players, physically and mentally. Just like Alldritt who asked for a 2 months break after the RWC.


So the lack of respect perceived by many is quite easy to put on a comment.

They’re not machines. And yet they’re playing 25% more games.

Rugby is more and more demanding, but so are the fans who’d like to have it like a video game: the best, always available, on demand.

They’re humans, just like you (I hope).

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paul 347 days ago

The days of internationals are done. The world cup is a bore. The All Blacks were considered so good not based on world cups but on their 87% win rate over years. Winning the world cup every four years is nowhere near as admirable as that rate. That is lost on people now.

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FC 347 days ago

Bullshit comment.

Who won the 1990 soccer world cup?

Easy, Germany. Everybody knows that.

Who was the number one ranked team in the world Before that tournament?

Nobody knows or cares.

The only ones who bleat about World Cups having no relevance anymore are the tossers from countries like France, England and Ireland who just cant manage to win them, in spite of all their wonderful rankings, club successes and financial resources.

How embarassing to World Rugby that a country in constant political turmoil since the ‘60's, with a very chequered racially divisive past, and financially so cash strapped that most of their best players have to go make a living abroad have 4 World Cup trophies, and another tiny country in the South Pacific, with a population of less than 5 million (of which around 1.5 million are non rugby interested immigrants…) have 3 WC winners trophies…

Coincidence that these same 2 countries have dominated World Rugby in the last 100 years?…

A lot more seems to be lost on you, son.

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Bull Shark 347 days ago

“Win rates” are just something good teams that don’t win the World Cup bang on about.


Also, how beautiful they play - Ala Ireland. There are no participation awards in professional sports. Just trophies. For winning competitions.

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Colin 347 days ago

Is Rugby losing its allure amongst the ranking International Team sports? Or is it just because the ABs and NZ are not top 3 anymore that it doesn’t appear …. globally present? I place ABs 5th behind

Sth Africa

England

Ireland

France

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Ruby 347 days ago

Nah New Zealand were clearly the best performing team.

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Blanco 347 days ago

At the start of the RWC I thought NZ were slightly behind SA/Fra/Ire but by the end they were playing well with a great opportunity to pinch an unexpected RWC.

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Lou Cifer 347 days ago

Don’t be too hasty writing the All Blacks off just yet. They have lost a few stalwarts (Aaron Smith, Whitelock, Retallick etc), but they have enough talent to weather this little storm and a wily coach in Razor too😉

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paul 347 days ago

I love the armchair experts deciding the best teams. Last I saw nz were 2nd in world by 1 point. You are only as good as your last game they say. That final was their last game.

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Mitch 347 days ago

New Zealand should return serve and send a weakened team next time they play in France. France would have no right to complain.

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LW 347 days ago

Fair enough

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RugCs 347 days ago

And stiffed they will be having to pay top dollar in small stadiums only to watch a French B team.

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LW 347 days ago

Meh, just stay at home. Watch the highlights or the stream.

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Wayneo 347 days ago

The top French players play 26 games in the Top14 and from 4 up to 8 games in the Champions/Challenge Cup every year and almost double the 14 to 16 games the kiwis play.


Just a suggestion from my side, if kiwis don’t like this then maybe they should back the global season drive instead of being the ones who have constantly been against it.


Am I wrong in my assessment that if everybody rests together then they should always face the strongest possible opposition?

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DS 348 days ago

NH arrogance when they will insist on the A teams from the SH on northern tours. Will England do the same again?

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Wayneo 347 days ago

Was it SH arrogance when Graham Henry did it?

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Tim 347 days ago

Looks like England are going to send a pretty strong squad down to NZ next month. I reckon they'll be feeling pretty confident considering NZ are starting a new coaching phase and loss of loads of experienced talent post RWC 2023.

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Jmann 348 days ago

cowards

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mW 348 days ago

Sounds a bit like the saffas excuse wen rassie said he’d rather sacrifice games during the build up as a strategy to getting the wc silver ware as more important. Interesting strategy by both nations however in my opinion this wouldn’t be pallatibble to accept losing games from a fan perspective who would accept nothing but the best abs international team selected in any fixture.

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FC 347 days ago

Its not an excuse when it works.

Its strategy.

Excuses sound like this:

“Our food was poisoned by someone called Suzie…”

Or

“It was a forward pass…”

Or

“They cheated by using a coach as a water boy…”

Or

“Using a 7-1 split is detrimental to the spirit of rugby…”

Or

“France, England and the All Blacks were CHEATED BY THE REF's!!!…..”

See the diffrence?

Here endeth the lesson.

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Bull Shark 347 days ago

You lot like to throw that up. But do consider that the games the boks don’t mind losing are the games that don’t matter in terms of trophies.


You’ll not often see an experimental Bok team fielded against the ABs in the RC. But you may against the NH teams in Autumn - where the games don’t count for anything other than rankings points.

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SC 348 days ago

Send the All Blacks XV to France in November 2025 and call it resting the “Premium” All Blacks, lol

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Dylan 348 days ago

NZ should send the U20s to play, if France insists on behaving like children, maybe sending our kids over is more appropriate.

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