Slow starts for the Chiefs or just fast finishes?

It won’t encourage ppl to enter the profession if they think they will be accused of being biased/incompetent etc and that will become the norm.

JAS at 12 is no better. It will expose his lack of contact skills even more - he had one pen against in Melbourne when he ran all the way around the side of a ruck to clean out a bloke who hadn’t even entered it!

For now, just let him use the skill-set he has in the back three, in space.

Don’t agree about the Genge calls. Robbo was going up and down like a yoyo, haven’t seen so many collapses since dear old Al Baxter!

Interesting fact is that Carlo was not apparently required to have an an HIA after the game, so presumably is available for the third Test. Presumably the hit was within acceptable parameters?

The selection stuff I just don’t understand. Why Bell on the bench, and why pair a 6’4 prop with one of 5’10? Why not Kerevi or Paisami at 12 to give young Tom an insurance poilicy? Why let Skelton tell everyone he’s fit and then not pick him? Etc etc.

Australia always used to find a way to win these tight games, now they do the opposite!

The French have some unique roles for their 10s, I could have seen potential for these two to a good cog in a working team. Similar to Lynagh’s style of the Wallabies (if you have watched) and some NZ talent.

This is the perfect opportunity to spend the 5 - 10minutes looking at it that they have been during a game.

Sorry to come back and rehash it with you. These are the views of the Wallabies mortal enemy, you can see them shared very fairly from the perspective were used on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod on youtube if your interested.

This difference in this situation is Morgan dove off his feet and had far more of a downward motion than is safe, this is what causes Tizzano to ‘bounce’ out of the ruck and leave morgan lying even short of his own player, rather than both getting pushed back off/over the player.

At all times his arms were at full stretch, he can’t really be criticized and that sorta thing is rightly overlooked. Only a foul warrants review in this situation.

TBF NZR have always maintained his signed from next year, so perhaps those the legalities of it, but boy I hope he can be selected if needed given that hes playing.

I don’t mind your (or the refs) view, but what Morgan said is accurate. Both Mils and Beaver agreed on the breakdown, and you will also get the same view from Aotearoa Rugby Pod guys for a pretty unanimous NZ view.

Sometimes when both players are low its a rugby collision and this is one of those times.

Not recently. In the SR finals and AB v Arg series weve seen players clearly bent 90 at the waist still be penalised, only when the attacker does something the ref sees immediate mitigation and rules a rugby incident. Tizzano didn’t offer that he was always in the position Morgan aimed to collect him in.

Happy to not throw the rule book at these situations but the precent is that they are in these situations.

many tries out wide the player is allowed to be tackled while diving

They are diving for the line, not to avoid being tackled.

“In principle, in a try scoring situation, if the action is deemed to be a dive forward for a try, then it should be permitted. If a player is deemed to have left the ground to avoid a tackle; or to jump, or hurdle a potential tackler, then this is dangerous play and should be sanctioned accordingly.”

You can read Nicks article for an updated discourse on this though.

Yes I couldn’t relate to the players from then, obviously some greats, but why I said “group of players” is just for that reason, more depth, but yes, not the same verve even though that was their focus for the tour. I was more going off what I’d read from their fans before the tour admittedly lol