The little known international team that Scott Robertson has already coached
Much has been said and written about Scott Robertson’s future as All Blacks’ coach from 2024, his success with the New Zealand Colts, Canterbury and, of course, the Crusaders. About his dancing.
But, how many know of his involvement with an international team at the start of the last decade?
The year was 2011 and at World Rugby’s General Assembly in Auckland prior to the Rugby World Cup final, the Canterbury Rugby Union was invited to make a presentation to the delegates. They basically showcased their rugby services and the need to regain some normalcy and much-needed funds after the devastating earthquake.
Only one Union showed real interest and for the following two years, the Canterbury RU would assist with their coaching and developing a High-Performance programme.
Razor would become one of Brazil’s coaches in 2012 and 2013.
“We not only had Razor; there was also Tabai Matson, Brent Frew, Dallas Seymour coaching our fifteens and sevens, as well as trainers,” recalls Fernando Portugal, Os Tupis fullback for more than a decade, before a five-year stint as national coach until last year.
“He was one of the first to give players a place in the construction of how we wanted to play. So much that when we were doing video analysis, players were presenting to the team, and that was a big shock,” he says, adding that “this made us think in a different way.”
Portugal was in the leadership group, as was Daniel ‘Nativo’ Danielewicz. The former hooker who would work with Portugal in the national coaching set-up after a long-playing career also has fond memories of the time Brazilian rugby came under the support of Canterbury.
“Our first coach was Tabai Matson, with ‘Frewbie’ as assistant; later that first year we had Scott.”
By the time of the 34th Campeonato Sudamericano, back then a yearly event, in July 2012, Robertson was in charge.
The opening game in Santiago, Chile, was against the home team and a creditable 19-6 loss was followed by a huge 111-0 loss against Argentina with mostly dirt-trackers. Three days later, Uruguay would beat them 27-15 under the rain.
“We were still training once a week; they came and prepared the system to perform, with time changing to an environment of daily training, a big difference for all of us,” adds Nativo.
With San Pablo landlocked, there was no surf for Razor until the following year when he took Brazil Sevens to Viña del Mar, in Chile. There, he managed a few waves, but his visits to South America were strictly rugby.
In fact, before joining Brazil, his two previous visits to the region had been with the NZ Colts, winning the inaugural Southern Hemisphere U20 Championship, and when making the try-scoring pass in the 80th minute for a get-out-of-jail win against Los Pumas in 2001, both in Buenos Aires.
After his short sevens stint, a few months later he was back on fifteens’ duty at the 35th Sudamericano, this time in Montevideo, where again there were three losses in three games – 38-22 against Chile, 58-7 against Uruguay and 83-0 against Argentina, a game in which Pablo Matera, who would later play for Robertson’s Crusaders, scored a try.
“Razor came and delivered; he was very professional. I enjoyed his coaching style, and from what I recall, he really tries to generate a good environment for the players. That is big for him.”
“He wanted us to enjoy ourselves, to want to be there, to enjoy the hard training, and then perform,” adds Nativo, who was his skipper in 2013.
Portugal says that whilst there wasn’t sufficient time for deep connections, “Razor would speak about professionalism, daily routines. We were very amateur back then.”
“After team training sessions we would all go to a nearby eatery without showering. He was at us, saying that was not professional, that personal hygiene was important. It was about looking after the mind and the body.”
And it wasn’t rugby 24/7. “He would say that we had to take type for more human things. That is how he leads the Crusaders, ensuring individual freedom.”
As both Portugal and Nativo Danielewicz would progress to coaching, they certainly took things from those days. “Even if I don’t know what, you absorb a lot of things as a player that you take to coaching. Little things that he brought that made the difference…game changers.”
Portugal adds: “For big decision-making moments, he would call the leaders. That is something that always stayed with me.”
“I also understood the importance of the human side, wanting to know the players better, give them a space to grow outside of the game.”
Both have followed Robertson’s success with the Crusaders and were not surprised with his elevation to the All Blacks’ hot seat.
Portugal knows Razor will be good for the All Blacks. “It wasn’t a surprise that he became All Blacks’ coach as I followed his career.”
“He combines his knowledge of the game with giving players their spotlight and he will generate an enjoyable and serene place for the team.”
Nativo adds: “I lived in New Zealand when I was 17 and they are my second favourite team; Razors teams have performed well.”
“My guess is that he will be good for the All Blacks.”
“I really enjoyed the time he coached us, it was a very, very good time; I wish him all the best.”
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The only benefit of the draft idea is league competitiveness. There would be absolutely no commercial value in a draft with rugby’s current interest levels.
I wonder what came first in america? I’m assuming it’s commercial aspect just built overtime and was a side effect essentially.
But the idea is not without merit as a goal. The first step towards being able to implement a draft being be creating it’s source of draftees. Where would you have the players come from? NFL uses college, and players of an age around 22 are generally able to step straight into the NFL. Baseball uses School and kids (obviously nowhere near pro level being 3/4 years younger) are sent to minor league clubs for a few years, the equivalent of the Super Rugby academies. I don’t think the latter is possible legally, and probably the most unethical and pointless, so do we create a University scene that builds on and up from the School scene? There is a lot of merit in that and it would tie in much better with our future partners in Japan and America.
Can we used the club scene and dispose of the Super Rugby academies? The benefit of this is that players have no association to their Super side, ie theyre not being drafted elshwere after spending time as a Blues or Chiefs player etc, it removes the negative of investing in a player just to benefit another club. The disadvantage of course is that now the players have nowhere near the quality of coaching and each countries U20s results will suffer (supposedly).
Or are we just doing something really dirty and making a rule that the only players under the age of 22 (that can sign a pro contract..) that a Super side can contract are those that come from the draft? Any player wanting to upgrade from an academy to full contract has to opt into the draft?
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You’ve got the perfect structure to run your 1A and 1B on a quota of club representation by Province. Have some balance/reward system in place to promote and reward competitiveness/excellence. Say each bracket has 12 teams, each province 3 spots, given the Irish Shield winner once of the bottom ranked provinces spots, so the twelve teams that make up 1A are 4 from Leinster, 3 each from Connacht and Munster, and 2 from Ulster etc. Run the same rule over 1B from the 1A reults/winner/bottom team etc. I’d imagine IRFU would want to keep participation to at least two teams from any one province but if not, and there was reason for more flexibility and competitveness, you can simply have other ways to change the numbers, like caps won by each province for the year prior or something.
Then give those clubs sides much bigger incentive to up their game, say instead of using the Pro sides for the British and Irish Cup you had going, it’s these best club sides that get to represent Ireland. There is plenty of interest in semi pro club cup competitions in europe that Ireland can invest in or drive their own creation of.
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