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'There is going to be some questions': Why Tuivasa-Sheck snub hurts the Blues' brand

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Former Queensland State of Origin coach and Manly Sea Eagles CEO Sir Graham Lowe was left shocked that Roger Tuivasa-Sheck was omitted from the Blues team to play the Crusaders.

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The Blues selected Harry Plummer in the No 12 jersey to face the Crusaders and used Bryce Heem and AJ Lam as the reserve backs off the bench in the 15-3 loss.

The league convert was capped by the All Blacks in 2022 but the writing seems to be on the wall after the selection snub.

Lowe had a hunch that the omission might be due to Tuivasa-Sheck announcing he will return to the NRL with the New Zealand Warriors.

“I’ve tried to take a balanced view of it but I can’t believe he couldn’t make a 23-man Blues side,” Lowe told D’Arcy Waldegrave’s Newstalk ZB show.

“I think that if you ask any of the Blues players, they would totally agree.

“I see the other side of the coin where Roger has already said he’s coming back to the Warriors, he wants to make a change.

“A little bit of the thinking on their part will be why not let him move on now or not include him and let us get prepared for next year.”

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Despite signing with the Warriors for a return in 2024, Tuivasa-Sheck’s goal is to make the Rugby World Cup with the All Blacks.

Not being picked for the Blues will harm those chances but Lowe said that Tuivasa-Sheck’s reputation remains in tact and it is the Blues who are doing damage to their brand.

“I don’t think this damages Roger’s brand whatsoever,” Lowe explained.

“I think this has an impact on the Blues brand if he can’t make the Blues side and they can’t aim up, well there is going to be some questions asked, surely.

“Obviously it is a big transition in any sport when you change one code to another, it’s not an easy thing.

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“From what I’ve seen Roger has always looked a good player and hasn’t looked out of place in the backline, whether it be for the All Blacks or for the Blues.

“There might be little niches in the game that they might not think he is as good as others, I’m not sure, but he’s a class player.

“There are very few players that play for any organisation that have class, and Roger’s got class, doesn’t matter what jersey he is wearing.

“Many good judges of rugby would say he’s good enough to be in the All Blacks at the end of the year.”

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frandinand 801 days ago

And many good judges of rugby would say that he is not competent enough to be an AB at number 12.

And if Lowe thinks that the Blues coaching team are not selecting him out of spite because he is leaving next year he is an idiot. The Blues coaching team will be selecting what they think is their best team. They are trying to win a competition.

RTS was always leaving the Blues at the end of 2023 whether it be to union or league would make no difference to the Blues coaches.

Lowe's comments are those of a league coach and are therefore suspect because of his bias and general lack of intelligence.

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Roger 802 days ago

Graham Lowe stick to league mate. Your comments are not helpful to RTS and /or Rugby.

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GM 802 days ago

Time to question whoever at the Blues thought RTS was a good investment. Union is so specialised it should have been obvious he was never going to cut it at the top level: not enough defensive presence for the mid-field, not fast enough for the wing, not a good enough kicker or reader of the game for five eighth or fullback. All of which also indicates he doesn't warrant a place on the bench either.

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Andrew 802 days ago

Like hed know anything about Rugby? RTS was an experiment. For better or worse be chose the Blues (major mistake) his coaches thought hed be a midfielder (delusional) and now its clear the experiment in trying to restore him to rugby was like with Benjie, an dxpensive mistake. He simpy isnt better than the alternatives, however we and he may have wished otherwise.

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CO 27 minutes ago
The stat in which the Springboks outperformed everyone fivefold in July

Parson having a chortle over the mismatches

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Hellhound 56 minutes ago
Steve Hansen: The Boks are 'rolling the dice and so far they’ve got away with it'

It's how it will always be. We have a hate / love relationship.

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Hellhound 59 minutes ago
Steve Hansen: The Boks are 'rolling the dice and so far they’ve got away with it'

Not true. In the public eye, the Boks is one dimensional and the AB's the Kings of running exciting rugby. The AB's are the most feared team with talent that no other nations can match. Even though that is just pure speculation and maybe true of the past, most NZ folks live in the past era, expecting the AB's to always be the strongest and best. So what chance does poor old SA have against a mighty Giant like the AB's? Despite beating them 4 times in a row which they claim was 4 lucky wins. Despite the Boks being double WC winners, which they say the refs helped them win the WC with 3 single point victories. Despite the Boks winning the RC back to back in 2023 and 2024. It was all lucky wins right? Even the trashing at Twickenham was just a lucky wins. I mean, now they claim these same Boks are going to get “SMASHED”.

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Hellhound 1 hour ago
Steve Hansen: The Boks are 'rolling the dice and so far they’ve got away with it'

Most often Kings create their own destruction by creating their own worst enemies. By going after Rassie, WR and it's puppets tried to kill the Boks, only to find that all they did was peel away the outer onion layer only. The Boks have so much more endless layers. Keep peeling those layers, and it will make them cry harder with each peel.

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Hellhound 1 hour ago
Steve Hansen: The Boks are 'rolling the dice and so far they’ve got away with it'

They were a team testing different plays and players. They are a much better side than last year or the WC of ‘23. There is no guarantee of any team winning no, but who wants it more? Who’s mindset will be the strongest? Because that is where the game will be won or lost. Both SA and NZ have exceptional talent. We know it's going to be humdingers. How much is that 4 losses going to bother the AB's? They lost to the Boks and baby Boks in 2 WC Finals. It rankles the NZ public, I know that. Can the AB's players bring back some pride by winning both Tests? Nothing less would be acceptable

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Hellhound 1 hour ago
Steve Hansen: The Boks are 'rolling the dice and so far they’ve got away with it'

Of course they are favourites. Despite losing 4 in a row. In every game the AB's play they are the favourites. It will be 2 great Tests. However, unlike other seasons, the Boks isn't using the RC to build depth. Rassie wants a full house of wins. The WC grouping is at the end of this year. They mean serious business. The question is how the AB's will handle that mindset? That is what is going to decide these Tests. If the AB's mindset isn't set to WC standards, that will cost them big time. This will be 2 WC Final type of matches. What people see from the Boks is a lot of changes, different players. They think it's just depth building. That is an ongoing process and not the main reason anymore. The Boks have various strategies and various players for those strategies. They are ready for the WC. They are looking at the best players. The in team competition is much harder than what the public knows. It's all about who will be the best of the best to represent the Boks. The AB's are good, but they will face a Bok team a whole lot better than the WC Final team. If the AB's can pull off wins, that will mean they are ready, but be sure that the Boks will thrive with every little mistake. The intensity of the game will run the full 80 minutes and the AB's better be fit and ready to go the full 80 minutes.

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Toaster 1 hour ago
Are other All Blacks better suited to number six than Tupou Vaa'i?

Yep the breakdown goes on “whatever is in their heads”


The Aotearoa rugby pod brings well prepared analysis

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Carlos 1 hour ago
‘USA have a way to go to fulfil Moonshot mission but 2031 RWC will be a success’

I’ve been reading a variation of this story for the last 30 years. Never happens. Always the land of tomorrow.


WR is even jiggling classification to try to get the USA into the next World Cup. They couldn’t beat Uruguay or Chile to get to the last one. Chile!

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Toaster 1 hour ago
Are other All Blacks better suited to number six than Tupou Vaa'i?

I think we will see Holland and Barrett (health food chain) with Vaai at 6


Tuipolotu for bench grunt with Finau foe the big boys or Kirifi for a faster game


My hope anyway

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Hellhound 1 hour ago
'Would be great': Ronan O'Gara backs rugby to ape football-style rule change

A weak coach who can't innovate looks for a cheat code to beat the game.

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SC 1 hour ago
New All Blacks locks squeezing captain Barrett out of contention

With Savea playing 7 and his lack of ruck cleaning and low tackling rate (he is a world class ball carrier and jackal), the All Blacks need a lock- type player playing blindside and smashing as many offensive rucks as possible so that Savea is freed up to ball carry along with whoever is at 8.

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Hellhound 1 hour ago
'Would be great': Ronan O'Gara backs rugby to ape football-style rule change

If you can't beat a team knowing who you are going to face, then why become a coach? The players deserve to know who is going to play and to get themselves mentally ready for the game. Ever wondered why soccer players always flip around, acting like the the weakest men in the universe? Like Nigel Owens used to say…” This is rugby, not soccer”. Already people want rugby to become like League where the weak players dwell. Weak coaches can't innovate the game, instead looking to a cheat move to try and gain an upper hand. That is the difference between a coach like Rassie, a double WC winning coach in par for a triple, and coaches like O’Gara. A King in coaching vs a wannabe. Who knew O’Gara would be the next Matt Williams? I would be very ashamed if they were from my country, and luckily they are not. Drivel like that shouldn't be posted unless it is willing to accept the hate that will come with it

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Toaster 1 hour ago
Are other All Blacks better suited to number six than Tupou Vaa'i?

He’s alright doing the tight stuff as shown by his tackle and ruck stats

He’s got some way to go and maybe they will bench him for the Boks

They shouldn’t

It will be good for him


It’s actually his dominant tackles and open game they will develop but we have seen signs with his offload to Vaai for the try

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Toaster 1 hour ago
Are other All Blacks better suited to number six than Tupou Vaa'i?

34 isn’t past it for a World Cup and he will be 34 just after we win the final 😃🙏


Yes it’s entirely possible and probable that the Vaai experiment might be shelved for games and they do play lock together


We may unearth another by then

Lord still hasn’t had a proper go yet and Tuipolotu at a similar Barrett age seems back to great form too

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SC 1 hour ago
New All Blacks locks squeezing captain Barrett out of contention

As a former lock, it’s frustrating that most media and supporters do not know that there is a significant difference in the roles and duties (even body types) of a 4 power tight lock and 5 aerial loose lock.


The 4 lock is an enforcer who is very physical and carries hard in tight, a very effective nasty ruck cleaner, a very powerful scrummager behind the tighthead, and hard hitting defender. Often the are the second lineout option at the back. This is the spot Scott Barrett and Patrick Tuipulotu, Isaiah Walker- Leawere play. Big tough hard men. Think Bakkies Botha and Brodie Retallick.


The 5 lock is almost always taller and leaner as their primary responsibility is winning the ball in the air on lineouts and restarts. Height is essential. They clean a ton of rucks and make a lot of tackles but their carries tend to be out wider in space and which requires more athleticism than tight lock. This is where Holland, Va’ai, and Darry play. Think Victor Matfield and Sam Whitelock.


My point is Holland is way too lean in his body shape at this point, and too inexperienced, and not quite enough mongrel to play 4. Give him time to physically mature and harden up. He is playing great at 5 and Va’ai looks very good at 6.

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Toaster 2 hours ago
Two All Blacks praised as 'potential superstars' in France whitewash

Haha brave calls as a Canes fan!

Lomax is world class and has been unlucky with injury

I won’t count the last game as he’s been out a while

Props need game time

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Toaster 2 hours ago
Two All Blacks praised as 'potential superstars' in France whitewash

I think the ABs will be best when the starters are strong but the bench arguably more impactful


I’d be happy to see EDG and Lomax starting and Williams and Newell to smash it around the 45-55 mins mark


Tosi is massive too with such great hands


I think like Finau they can get much more out of EDG for sure

Agree on your comments

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SC 2 hours ago
New All Blacks locks squeezing captain Barrett out of contention

Josh Lord is the only player more injury prone than Blackadder and Jacobson.

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Soliloquin 2 hours ago
Competing interests and rotated squads: What the 'player welfare summer' is really telling us

I don’t know the financial story behind the changes that were implemented, but I guess clubs started to lose money, Mourad Boudjellal won it all with Toulon, got tired and wanted to invest in football , the French national team was at its lowest with the QF humiliation in 2015 and the FFR needed to transform the model where no French talent could thrive. Interestingly enough, the JIFF rule came in during the 2009/2010 season, so before the Toulon dynasty, but it was only 40% of the players that to be from trained in French academies. But the crops came a few years later, when they passed it at the current level of 70%.

Again, I’m not a huge fan of under 18 players being scouted and signed. I’d rather have French clubs create sub-academies in French territories like Wallis and Futuna, New Caledonia and other places that are culturally closer to RU and geographically closer to rugby lands. Mauvaka, Moefana, Taofifenua bros, Tolofua bros, Falatea - they all came to mainland after starting their rugby adventure back home.

They’re French, they come from economically struggling areas, and rugby can help locally, instead of lumping foreign talents.

And even though many national teams benefit from their players training and playing in France, there are cases where they could avoid trying to get them in the French national team (Tatafu).

In other cases, I feel less shame when the country doesn’t believe in the player like in Meafou’s case.

And there are players that never consider switching to the French national team like Niniashvili, Merckler or even Capuozzo, who is French and doesn’t really speak Italian.

We’ll see with Jacques Willis 🥲


But hey, it’s nothing new to Australia and NZ with PI!

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Soliloquin 3 hours ago
Why New Zealand learned more from their July series than France

Whitelock said he didn’t want to play “la saison de trop”, meaning he felt like his second season at Pau would have been too much, and rather wanted to end his experience on a good note, which is very admirable from him: he might have felt he wouldn’t perform well enough for the investment it would represent, which I find very classy.

No more details.

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