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Which of course means decades with overboard rules. I’m more hoping once the legal side is cleared opinion will be more balanced on how we need to treat the threat of concussion.

Wasn’t the american case mainly revolved around NFLs inaction to a clear problem? It was all a coverup of course but I can’t see WR with the same culpability. The NFL was a money machine, WR was still amateur.

It just takes time as it has to start at the bottom in underage and amatuer level. It's hard to retrain 28 year old pros overnight.

IDK about this. I’d imagine head contact is going to be worse in some respects as coming up through the grades you’re allow to be more and more loose/careless. I hope they’ve got the learning windows right.

Razor was always gonna be judged by us on his second year in the saddle. What others think is irrelevant. So far, so good.

My question is still the same, and the important one though. Where the rate of concussions in Fed 2 high? Of course if there where only three concussions, and they were reduced now to one, then there is no need for the new laws etc.

There are two angles to this discussion, mine above about player welfare, and of course the that which you raise, legal responsibility. More, the legal responsibility we are concerned with is what’s happening now.

WR don’t really know much about CTE I wouldn’t think, whether it happens from innocuous things like heading a ball, or from small knocks or big knocks that don’t heal. Right now they are ensuring the backside is clean by implementing laws to rule out any possibility they didn’t do enough. So once they understand the problem more they may realise some things are overboard.

The other legal responsibility is the one you are talking about in France, the past. Did the LNR and WR know about the severity and frequency of CTE in rugby? That is the question in that debate. If they didn’t know then theres nothing they could have done, so there is no worry. Further, what we may have now is a situation where 90% of those court actions might not happen in future thanks to the new framework we already have around HIA and head contact processes. Your English example is only going to be an issue if future players still continue to receive CTE (as that is obviously bad), as it is now, the players have taken on their own responsibility by ignore advice. No doubt some countries, like France and New Zealand, will lower their tackle height, but as long as the union has done an adequate job in advising of the severity of the problem at least the legal shadow over the community game will have gone.