Why Wales' and England's fortunes are intertwined this weekend
In dark times, normally an England defeat would provide some much-needed respite for Welsh rugby supporters.
However, a first-ever England defeat at the hands of Japan this weekend would come at a price on both sides of the bridge.
Wales cannot be displaced from 11th position by Georgia this weekend as a win over Tonga wouldn’t lead to any increase in the Lelos’ rating and Wales don’t stand to lose any points if, as expected, they’re well beaten by world champions South Africa.
But while Georgia aren’t a threat, Japan potentially are. As fanciful as it might sound, Eddie Jones might have one last big win in him, and who better to overturn than the team that dispensed of his services and who are now coached by his old lieutenant?
Japan came up well short when the teams met in Tokyo in June, losing 52-17. But the fact of the matter is that the Brave Blossoms will climb two places in the world rankings if they come out on top, leaving Wales and Georgia trailing in their wake.
On a day which could be bad enough in its own right given the predictions that the Springboks will hammer a final nail into the Warren Gatland era 2.0, news of an England defeat could worsen the mood even further as it would condemn Wales to their lowest-ever ranking of 12th.
The only consolation for Wales is that England would have also hit rock bottom in slipping to eighth if they lose to Japan. England could even end a five-match losing run and still fall a place to eighth – equalling their lowest-ever position – if the match between Scotland and Australia at Murrayfield ends in a draw.
A fourth defeat of the Autumn Nations Series could actually see England sink as low as 10th in the unlikely event that they lose at home to Japan, Italy win and Fiji and Australia avoid defeat.
At the top of the rankings, South Africa's place at number one is theirs to lose. Only a failure against Wales will see them toppled from the summit.
But with Ireland unable to add any points to their rating this weekend for a win against Fiji and New Zealand able to marginally improve theirs with a positive result against Italy, the All Blacks do have a chance, albeit a very slim one, to reclaim second spot off the Irish.
For New Zealand to become number one for the first time since the semi-finals of Rugby World Cup 2019, they must beat Italy in Turin and hope that South Africa lose by more than 15 points and Ireland are also beaten.
Fourth-place France need a favour from Italy as well as beating Argentina in the opening match of the weekend if they are to climb above New Zealand into third.
Les Bleus can end the weekend in second if they win, New Zealand lose and Ireland are beaten by more than 15 points by Fiji – a scenario that would see France and Ireland swap places. However, defeat for Les Bleus at the Stade de France will see Argentina leapfrog them in the rankings and move up to fourth.
Third place is possible for Los Pumas but they would have to win by more than 15 points and hope New Zealand suffer a similarly large defeat for that to happen.
Scotland cannot improve on sixth place this weekend despite being able to pick nearly a point for an emphatic win against Australia, and they will relinquish their position to the Wallabies if the Grand Slam-seeking tourists make it three Autumn Nations Series wins on the bounce.
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Go to commentsYes that’s what WR needs to look at. Football had the same problem with european powerhouses getting all the latin talent then you’re gaurenteed to get the odd late bloomer (21/22 etc, all the best footballers can play for the country much younger to get locked) star changing his allegiance.
They used youth rep selection for locking national elifibilty at one point etc. Then later only counted residency after the age of 18 (make clubs/nations like in this case wait even longer).
That’s what I’m talking about, not changing allegiance in rugby (were it can only be captured by the senior side), where it is still the senior side. Oh yeah, good point about CJ, so in most cases we probably want kids to be able to switch allegiance, were say someone like Lemoto could rep Tonga (if he wasn’t so good) but still play for Australia’s seniors, while in someone like Kite’s (the last aussie kid to go to France) case he’ll be French qualified via 5 years residency at the age of 21, so France to lock him up before Aussie even get a chance to select him. But if we use footballs regulations, who I’m suggesting WR need to get their a into g replicating, he would only start his 5 years once he turns 18 or whatever, meaning 23 yo is as soon as anyone can switch, and when if they’re good enough teams like NZ and Aus can select them (France don’t give a f, they select anybody just to lock them).
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