Northern Edition

Select Edition

Northern Northern
Southern Southern
Global Global
New Zealand New Zealand
France France

'We do get overlooked quite a bit, the RFU, RPA, agents, whatever'

(Photo by Alex Livesey/Getty Images)

Long-serving Newcastle boss Dean Richards has touched on the isolation within rugby that is felt by the Falcons and Sale, their northern neighbours, as the two teams try to keep the professional game going in that area of England. Friday night’s Gallagher Premiership meeting between the clubs in Manchester isn’t your typical derby experienced by other top-flight teams in congested areas such as London or the West Country. 

ADVERTISEMENT

It requires a three-hour spin down the A19 to get from Kingston Park to the AJ Bell compared to the 19-minute spin Bath will have from The Rec to Kingsholm to play Gloucester on Saturday, but that distance up north only embellishes how far removed the Sharks and the Falcons are from the hubbub of the pro game. 

For sure, the pair of clubs are an outpost compared to the clusters found elsewhere, a situation that does have its drawbacks. Richards has encountered them all during his decade in charge as the Newcastle director of rugby, but he insisted it wasn’t all doom and gloom either being so far removed by the cut and thrust of the industry elsewhere.

Video Spacer

We are joined by Springbok rugby royalty with very special guest Siya Kolisi | RugbyPass Offload | Episode 31

Video Player is loading.
Current Time 0:00
Duration 47:38
Loaded: 0%
Stream Type LIVE
Remaining Time 47:38
 
1x
    • Chapters
    • descriptions off, selected
    • captions off, selected
    • en (Main), selected
    Video Spacer

    We are joined by Springbok rugby royalty with very special guest Siya Kolisi | RugbyPass Offload | Episode 31

    We’re joined by Springbok royalty, Siya Kolisi, who discusses his incredible journey to becoming one of the most iconic players the sport has ever seen. Siya discusses his career journey both on and off the pitch including – altercations off the filed, the genius of Rassie Erasmus as a coach and selector, URC vs super rugby, the possibility of moving to play in Europe, his thoughts on Boks joining six nations, resetting rugby pathway, an incredible impromptu supper with Gerald Buttler, Drinks with Jurgen Klopp & Roc Nations positive influence on rugby.

    “There is a good friendly fondness between the two clubs because we are the most northern sides but that doesn’t affect how we approach each other on the field,” explained Richards when asked by RugbyPass to set the scene ahead of Friday’s ‘derby’ between teams that have about 160 miles of road between them.

    “We do get overlooked. These teams get overlooked quite a bit by various factions, the RFU, the RPA, agents or whatever, they don’t come up quite this far and that is just the way life is. But that’s life and we accept that and we both suffer the same sort of situations on a year by year basis but it’s not a hardship at all and we quite like it sometimes if we don’t get certain business from certain people. 

    Related

    “It has always been the case. When Dimes [Steve Diamond] was over in Sale we used to joke about it. You wouldn’t necessarily get the referees coming up or the England coaches coming up or the agents wouldn’t go north of Leicester. But it is a long way to travel if you are based down in London and you don’t want to come but it didn’t bother us, it doesn’t bother us at all. We are a bit of an outpost, as Sale are, and you take it as it is really.

    “What I will say is it’s an incredibly beautiful city and its outreach to the Northumberland coastline is absolutely stunning. It’s a very small city with everything happening. The countryside, inland in the moors is again wonderful if you want to lose yourself up there, fishing, shooting, you can do anything you like.

    ADVERTISEMENT

    “So in terms of being someone that is quiet, out of the way, you can have every facet that you want within your life up here. It’s a little bit of an outpost but it’s a wonderful part of the world and what you tend to find is if you turn around to the players, they can’t speak highly enough of the area.” 

    One thing that has changed in the past twelve months is that Newcastle are no longer overlooked by England boss Eddie Jones. For years, Mark Wilson was their sole representative but that has now changed with Adam Radwan, Jamie Blamire, Trevor Davison and Callum Chick all capped by the Australian. 

    “It has been really refreshing having Eddie paying a lot of attention to the players so from the coaching perspective with England, they have paid a lot more attention to ourselves and to the northern teams than in previous years which has been really pleasant to see,” admitted Richards, whose Newcastle team are now in a three-way battle with Worcester and Bath to avoid finishing last in this year’s Premiership.

    “From our point of view, we don’t want to finish bottom. That is a motivation in itself to win the last three games. If we win two out of the last three games we will be delighted.” 

    ADVERTISEMENT
    ADVERTISEMENT

    HSBC SVNS Singapore 2025 | Day Two Men's Highlights

    HSBC SVNS Singapore 2025 | Day Two Women's Highlights

    Jet Lag: The biggest challenge facing international sports? | The Report

    Boks Office | Episode 39 | The Investec Champions Cup is back

    Rugby’s Greatest Rivalry? | New Zealand & Australia | Sevens Wonders | Episode 5

    Kobelco Kobe Steelers vs Toshiba Brave Lupus Tokyo | Japan Rugby League One 2024/25 | Full Match Replay

    The Rise of Kenya | The Report

    The Fixture: How This Rugby Rivalry Has Lasted 59 Years

    Trending on RugbyPass

    Comments

    0 Comments
    Be the first to comment...

    Join free and tell us what you really think!

    Sign up for free
    ADVERTISEMENT

    Latest Features

    Comments on RugbyPass

    f
    fl 1 hour ago
    Why Les Kiss and Stuart Lancaster can lead Australia to glory

    “Why do you downplay his later career, post 50? He won a treble less than two years ago, with a club who played more games and won more games than any other team that managed the same feat. His crowning achievement - by his own admission.”

    He’s won many trebles in his career - why do you only care about one of them?

    I think its unsurprising that he’d feel more emotional about his recent achievements, but its less clear why you do.


    “Is it FA cups or League cups you’re forgetting in his English trophy haul? You haven’t made that clear…”

    It actually was clear, if you knew the number he had won of each, but I was ignoring the league cup, because Germany and Spain only have one cup competition so it isn’t possible to compare league cup performance with City to his performance with Bayern and Barcelona.


    “With Barcelona he won 14 trophies. With Bayern Munich he won 5 trophies. With City he has currently won 18 trophies…”

    I can count, but clearly you can’t divide! He was at Barca for 4 years, so that’s 3.5 trophies per year. He was at Bayern for 3 years, and actually won 7 trophies so that’s 2.3 trophies per year. He has been at City for 8 completed seasons so that’s 2.25 trophies per year. If in his 9th season (this one) he wins both the FA cup and the FIFA club world cup that will take his total to 20 for an average of 2.22 trophies per year.


    To be clear - you said that Pep had gotten better with age by every metric. In fact by most metrics he has gotten worse!

    182 Go to comments
    f
    fl 3 hours ago
    Why Les Kiss and Stuart Lancaster can lead Australia to glory

    “He made history beyond the age of 50. History.”

    He made history before the age of 50, why are you so keen to downplay Pep’s early career achievements? In 2009 he won the sextuple. No other manager in history had achieved that, and Pep hasn’t achieved it since, but here you are jizzing your pants over a couple of CL finals.


    “If continuing to break records and achieve trophies isn't a metric for success”

    Achieving trophies is a metric for success, and Pep wins fewer trophies as he gets older.


    “He's still competing for a major trophy this year. Should he get it, it would be 8 consecutive seasons with a major trophy. Then the world club cup in the summer.”

    You’re cherry picking some quite odd stats now. In Pep’s first 8 seasons as a manager he won 6 league titles, 2 CL titles, & 4 cup titles. In Pep’s last 8 seasons as a manager (including this one) he’s won 6 league titles, 1 CL title, & 2 (or possibly 3) cup titles. In his first 8 seasons he won the FIFA world club cup 3 times; in his last 8 seasons he’s won it 1 (or possibly soon to be 2) time(s). In his first 8 seasons he won the UEFA super cup 3 times; in his last 8 he won the UEFA super cup once. His record over the past 8 seasons has been amazing - but it is a step down from his record in his first 8 seasons, and winning the FA cup and FIFA club world cup this summer won’t change that.


    Pep is still a brilliant manager. He will probably remain a brilliant manager for many years to come, but you seem to want to forget how incredible he was when he first broke through. To be clear - you said that Pep had gotten better with age by every metric. That was false!

    182 Go to comments
    LONG READ
    LONG READ Why French rugby would be poorer if Ronan O'Gara leaves La Rochelle Why French rugby would be poorer if Ronan O'Gara leaves La Rochelle
    Search