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What Etzebeth said in private after Ireland loss shows where Boks are

South Africa's lock Eben Etzebeth reacts at the end of the France 2023 Rugby World Cup Pool B match between South Africa and Ireland at the Stade de France in Saint-Denis, on the outskirts of Paris on September 23, 2023. (Photo by MARTIN BUREAU / AFP) (Photo by MARTIN BUREAU/AFP via Getty Images)

Ireland may have come away with a 13-8 win over the world champions South Africa in their pool stage meeting on Saturday, but Andy Farrell’s side were unsuccessful in denting the Springboks’ confidence for the rest of the World Cup.

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The top two sides in the world produced a pool stage match for the ages at the Stade de France, which brought all the physicality and ferocity one would expect from the best teams in the world. Despite being on the wrong end of the scoreline, the three-time champions’ confidence has not been shaken in their pursuit of retaining the Webb Ellis Cup.

Jim Hamilton gave an insight into how the Boks were feeling after the match on The Rugby Pod this week, where he revealed a conversation he had in private with Eben Etzebeth.

“Shall I tell you honestly what Eben Etzebeth said to me?” he said to Andy Goode and Andy Rowe. “I just said to him physical game, and he was like ‘we’ll get them again if they make it through.’ If they make it through, that’s what he said.”

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This not only exhibits the supreme confidence that Etzebeth and his teammates have at this World Cup, but it also highlights what they think of Ireland’s chances of making it to the final (which is the only occasion where they could meet the Springboks again). Moreover, this perhaps shows what Etzebeth thinks of the All Blacks, who are now Ireland’s likely opponents in the quarter-finals.

Hamilton went on to discuss with Goode which team now has the psychological advantage for the rest of the tournament and whether the loss will affect Jacques Nienaber’s side mentally.

“You talk about the world champions,” he said. “You talk about the second best team, the top two best teams in the world, it’s the psychological part I don’t think affects South Africa. If they get the kicks at goal, if they get that lineout drive going at the end of the game and potentially a different referee, it looks very different. But Ireland have beaten them now. Ireland have beaten the All Blacks in a Test series. Ireland are Grand Slam champions. That’s the one and they’re not going to face them now until the final now.

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Match Summary

1
Penalty Goals
2
1
Tries
1
0
Conversions
1
0
Drop Goals
0
89
Carries
93
4
Line Breaks
4
18
Turnovers Lost
12
3
Turnovers Won
9

“I think South Africa have this arrogance, and rightly so because they’re world champions, that they can beat anyone.”

Goode added: “I think that’s the South African mindset of ‘okay, listen, we lost to Ireland and they took it to us physically’ – they normally beast teams South Africa, but their mentality and mindset is always ‘right, that’s the challenge that has been set, let’s show them what South African rugby is all about.’ They’ll have no problem bouncing back from that, the South Africans, it will actually motivate them more, I reckon.”

On a personal level for Etzebeth, the 120kg lock suffered the ignominy of being picked up and held in the air by Ireland winger James Lowe, which Hamilton said he will feel “embarrassed” about.

“He’s looking at that and he’s embarrassed. He’ll feel embarrassed, he’ll be raging, because that’s the one image that’s come out of that game.”

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Etzebeth is not the only person in the South African camp that remains unruffled after the loss in Paris though. Both head coach Nienaber and captain Siya Kolisi laughed off the question whether their side can still win the World Cup after the match, drawing inspiration from their pool stage loss to the All Blacks in 2019 before going on to win.

 

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NE 580 days ago

Awww, queenie, you’re even more pathetic when you get owned 5 times in a day. Higher, harder, you know you can.

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NE 595 days ago

Higher, little girl. Jump higher. Dumb loser.

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Jaimes 596 days ago

At the moment South Africa are playing below par, but only because they don't have a specialist kicker. They missed out on 11 points because they aren't converting tries or scoring the 3 from penalties. I feel like it's an issue Rassie Erasmus and Jacques Nienabar need to address going forward. However, the South African team are the 3 time world champions, pretty sure New Zealand are the only other team that can make that claim.

Come on you bokke!

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Barry 594 days ago

It's strange the only multiple winners of the Webb Ellis also each have rugby as their national sport. That's the historic difference between the hemispheres.

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ABshadez 595 days ago

Europe are definitely more of a threat this RWC than any other imo. Thing is, NZ and SA have gone past the quarters and all the way to the final more than any other team so have the benefit of RIGHT experience to call on to to do it again.

I think the biggest reason we are both "better than underdogs" to win our return matches with France and Ireland is that while we have lost some, we have smashed them be so much more and more often.

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Mike 596 days ago

It makes no sense, if SA were really serious about a victory, to give two below par kickers such long range attempts : with a dominant line out and maul setup that trashed the Irish. Erasmus and Jacques are the wiliest coaches in world rugby right now by a country mile. They are not at all phased by the loss to Ireland: they gave it to them physically and for Ireland there was no way through except for that long drift pass that exposed a defensive blip by Colby .

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Barry 594 days ago

Wow!!!!! SA haven't scored a maul try against Ireland since the 2016 summer tour. Even Rassie (for his many faults) knew they couldn't maul Ireland off the pitch. Nor did they. They bottled it on the last play of the game on their famed maul. Nothing to do with pumping kicks from their own half.

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aedan 596 days ago

Least arrogant South African. Y’all really can’t handle loss well can you? Well you’re gonna have to get used to it

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MM 597 days ago

@Nigel bit like your wrist action hey Nigie boy lol

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NE 597 days ago

Better believe it, son. You could of course use the delete function to set your mind at ease. Will certainly save some of your Sassa grant.

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GG 598 days ago

Nige, can’t believe I even started commenting to your shit. I am a retired person loving the World Cup and looking forward to discussing rugger with normal mature people. I don’t need Sassa grants or any dole, just intelligent rugger comments. As they say, over and out and the rest of the guys on the site are welcome to your stupidity. Cheers.

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NE 598 days ago

Owned you again. Was fun, just boring now. Hope you get your grant this month.

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GG 598 days ago

Nige, spelt Sassa, like your is spelt ‘dole’. To all others on the RugbyPass, I hand over Nige to you guys to chat with from now as I am tired interacting with such an idiot. Good luck you all.

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NE 598 days ago

So you are a Sasaa grantee, shame. You have my deepest sympathy.

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RD 598 days ago

Nigel as good as your team is at the moment they have nothing to show for it, maybe a six nations title or two. Until you win the World Cup Ireland will not have the respect the Boks & AB have in the rugby fertility bearing in mind the Boks played two less World Cups and won two away from home making them the best World Cup contenders of all time. Sorry pel until Ireland holds that cup above their heads they will be known going through a purple patch as they call it in golf, a good side at the time nothing more nothing less.

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Barry 597 days ago

Does it hurt then losing to a team currently in just a purple patch?

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John 597 days ago

Love the need for reassurance 👍

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Barry 598 days ago

Of course we all know why SA was frozen out of the first two tournaments. Smashing bunch of lads!

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GG 598 days ago

Wonder if RugbyPass can create 2 sites. One for rugger folk who love the game and really respect opinions and comments. The other site can be for those who...... whatever

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JD 597 days ago

And clearly you'd be a prime candidate for the 2nd group.

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Maurice 598 days ago

OMG.....

Children the lot of you.

Name calling.... Thought I left the childish attitude when i finished school.


As my daddy use to say it aint over till the fat lady sings.

Then say which team is the best or not.

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