'What stuck out was some of the messages were pretty disgusting'

Simon McIntyre couldn’t help himself a year ago when Sale boss Alex Sanderson wanted a chat. He was a wide-eyed 20-year-old when he bailed out of Manchester, quitting the Sharks academy in 2011 in preference for the bright lights of London and a shot at making it at Wasps.

Now after a decade buzzing at the coalface for a club that had since upped sticks and moved lock, stock and barrel to Coventry, he was faced with a dilemma: to stick with Wasps, to take up offers elsewhere or else bring it all back home at the age of 30 and return to his Mancunian roots by rejoining Sale on a one-year contract?

A single chat made up his mind. “There were various different offers around that time but for me, it was the conversation that I had with Alex when I met him,” explained McIntyre to RugbyPass about what proved most decisive when it came to deciding where his future lay for the 2021/22 season.

“I remember speaking to my agent straight after and it was like, ‘I’m in trouble here’. It was always a curiosity that I had throughout my career of coming back one day. I didn’t know it was going to happen and when the opportunity presented itself it felt right at this time.”

The Sale boss has continued to positively rub off on McIntyre since then. “The meetings are entertaining. If you think the press conferences are entertaining he has us doing all sorts of little games and stuff in some of the meetings - and no two meetings are the same,” continued McIntyre, speaking over the phone after training in a week that will culminate in Sunday’s glamour Heineken Champions Cup trip to Racing.

McIntyre wouldn’t reveal if he will definitely be around next term. “What my next steps are will be announced soon,” he teased but what is certain is his delight that he accepted the chance a year to come home. “Manchester is completely changed from how I remembered it. Some of the shops I used to go to aren’t there anymore which has been nice as I have been able to go and discover new pockets of the city that I hadn’t really been to or knew too well.

“I was a kid at that point (in the academy), so certain things I enjoy now I probably didn’t appreciate back then. Manchester is an unbelievable city. I love it here. It’s home as well so the fact that my family and friends that I grew up with and have kept in contact with since I have been away are close by is really special. They can come to games and support me not from afar anymore.”

It was at a Sale game when McIntyre’s mind as an impressionable teenager was first fully opened to the potential of a professional career. He’d never been along to a Premiership match until he was invited to a Friday night game at their old Edgeley Park home in Stockport and what unfolded fired the imagination about black players in rugby.

“My club team [Broughton Park] was a lot different. We’d quite a few black players playing for us which was funny at the time. Some of the looks we used to get when we turned up to some clubs, it was pretty bizarre to see but in the representative stuff, the counties thing that I was involved with or those early academy sessions with Sale, largely I was the only black player there.

“So going to a professional rugby match I didn’t really know what to expect because I didn’t really watch it at all at a young age. But to be able to see a visibly black player on the team (Jason Robinson) and every time he got on the ball there was this buzz in the air about what he was going to do next, I’d seen sport as something that wasn’t attainable for myself but that was one of those moments I look back on now and realise it did have an effect on how I perceived my presence in the game.”

It was June 2020, around the time when Black Lives Matter protests were taking place, that McIntyre stuck his head above the parapet and spoke out about racism in rugby. He was a 13-year-old when he experienced it overtly, some disgruntled opposition calling his team “cotton-pickers”. There was also a coach that made crass racist jokes under the pretext of banter when he was within earshot.

McIntyre has the utmost respect for the likes of fellow prop Beno Obano, whose Everybody’s Game documentary sharpened the spotlight on diversity in rugby. “It is slowly starting to come around but there is still a long way to go. My experience coming through at a young age was there was a distinct lack of resources available to me.

“I didn’t go to a traditional rugby school and the local club I had I was lucky. It was just by chance it was close by where I grew up and the coaching I received there really held me in good stead. But I wonder what the lack of resources is doing in terms of missing a lot of talent identification in non-traditional pathways.

“Could there be more done looking for the next players coming through from diverse backgrounds? Absolutely. There is no shying away from the fact rugby is still very much looked at as an elitist game. I don’t think anyone can argue that rugby is still looked at in that way. But what some players are doing to break down stereotypes of perception of the game, what Beno Obano is doing at the moment is really inspiring stuff in terms of sharing his story.

“The more players can share their story and use their platform to bring the game to people from other backgrounds, that is only going to enhance the game, grow the fanbase in a way that more people are able to be involved in the special game that it is. But it is about access and looking at ways to engage communities that rugby hasn’t really tended to bother with.

“The signs are more and more diverse talent is going to come through. That is inevitable with the way society is made up and the people we have coming into the country, it is a wonderful thing to reach wider communities - how much better and how much more enhanced the future England teams could be?

“That is something I’m really passionate about, the reflection of society, sport reflecting the make-up of society. If it is closed off to certain communities and we are not seeing representation in our sports then socially it really takes away from the power of what sport can do. Sport should be used as a machine to drive a lot of social change and I hope in the future we continue to see that unfold and have diverse England teams in whichever sport and hopefully in rugby."

What hugely helped McIntyre make the grade was having Dai Young, the ex-Wales and Lions prop, as his Wasps boss. “I don’t think I’d be as obsessed with scrums if it wasn’t for him in terms of the level of detail and the little nuances and dark arts of scrummaging, the difference between placing your foot versus where he told me to put it, the detail was absolutely fantastic and for a young prop, there weren’t many better environments to learn from somebody that decorated in the game.”

It was Young who convinced McIntyre to switch back to loosehead after he had moved to tighthead at the Sale academy. “I actually played England U18s at loosehead before starting at Sale and Phil Keith-Roach told me I was perfect for a tighthead, so he converted me. I only played two, maybe three years tighthead if you include that first year at Wasps.

“Then Dai basically sat me down and said we can keep going with playing at tighthead and we think you can play there but we love your impact around the pitch and playing with ball in hand. That is a real point of difference for you so why not put you to loosehead where you can do that more for us and you are not having to worry about the scum as much or it being as big a burden on your game than going around the pitch? That was the essence of it.

“At the time Trevor Woodman was the scrum coach, another decorated individual in the game, another unbelievable loosehead in his day, so it felt like, ‘Why not try it?’ I moved over. I won’t say I never looked back because I have had to go back over to tighthead a few times and I can do that, but I played the majority of my career at loosehead and it was a good choice.”

McIntyre tips the scales at Sale at 122kgs, a weight he discovered at Wasps that was best for him in terms of power to strength ratio, being as light as he can without compromising his strength to get him through more work rate and the other demands that now exist for props. “Until they take away the scrum completely, you will have big props coming through. Look at some of the young boys at Sale, James Harper is 21 and north of 125 kilos already. That part of the physiology of a prop isn’t going to change but what they do now is they all can sprint.

“Props are more athletic, they are almost another back row. I remember I was 20 or 21 and it was the hooker who was looked at as another back row but now all the front row needs to be able to move. It was a novelty for me back then, there weren’t many mobile and fast props around. But the crop of props coming through now, there is definitely more focus on developing them athletically so they move well.

“There is a real focus on front row fitness being a point of difference around the pitch. Gone are the days when props hid around rucks and weren’t involved in the defensive line. You have to get off the line, you’re expected to make tackles and get up on your feet, reload and go again. The emphasis is still on your bread and butter set-piece work, but in terms of the work rate and output from the front row, the demands are more than they have ever been.”