'A reckless move': Why Aus & NZ would be 'crazy' to axe their coaches
New Zealand rugby great Murray Mexted believes the Wallabies and All Blacks would be “crazy” to fire their respective coaches less than a year out from the World Cup.
International rugby has never been this competitive, but the expectation to win remains the same – and two top coaches have ultimately paid the price for some poor form.
Two traditional juggernauts of international rugby have made the bold decision to fire their head coach this week, just nine months out from the biggest event in the sport.
The Welsh Rugby Union confirmed that Warren Gatland would return to Wales to replace Wayne Pivac, while Eddie Jones was recently axed from his position with England.
Wales appeared especially desperate for change following a dire 2022 campaign which began with a fifth-place finish in the Six Nations.
While wins proved hard to come by for the remainder of the year, Pivac’s fate was seemingly sealed following a first ever loss to Georgia and a disastrous collapse against Australia.
Meanwhile, England only won one of their four matches during their November internationals, which was a convincing win over Japan.
But Eddie Jones’ hot seat reached boiling point following a convincing loss at home against South Africa, and news broke of his dismissal a matter of hours ago.
Speaking on SENZ, former All Blacks backrower Mexted said it would be “reckless” for New Zealand or Australia to make a similar decision.
“I’m surprised that Wales have sacked Pivac with one year to go, I think it’s a lot to do with the new coach. Gatland would be the only one qualified to take that role because he’s so close to it,” Mexted said on SENZ.
“But with Dave Rennie, they’d be crazy if they changed Dave Rennie… and it’s got to that stage with Ian Foster now too.
“To destabilise the World Cup campaign half a dozen matches out from the World cup, because there are a few not so big matches, would be a bad move, and it would be a reckless move, and I don’t think the New Zealand Rugby Union are going to do that.
“What we want to see to have our best opportunity is to have the players they aren’t quite sure about playing in Super Rugby competition, and then for them to pick their Test squad… for The Rugby Championship and stick with those guys.”
All Blacks Ian Foster came under fire following New Zealand’s historic series loss at home to Ireland – a team who had never won one Test in Aotearoa against the men in black before this year.
New Zealand went on to lose a Test match in South Africa, and another historic loss at home at Argentina, before they got their World Cup campaign back on track.
While Foster was publicly backed by the New Zealand Rugby Union, the assistant coaching group of Joe Schmidt and Jason Ryan has clearly worked wonders for the All Blacks.
The All Blacks finished their season on a seven Test unbeaten run – which included a dramatic draw with England at Twickenham – so Foster will almost certainly be safe until at least the World Cup.
As for Australia, they didn’t have the year that they deserved. They just didn’t.
The Wallabies fought valiantly in every Test match they played, but they just couldn’t hold on for the full 80 minutes.
Australia started their season with a two-point win over traditional rivals England in Perth, before losing six of their next eight Test matches.
While they kick started their spring tour with a thrilling win over Scotland, poor discipline cost them in tight matches as they lost their next three by three points or less.
But the true blue spirit of this Australian team was on display during their final Test of the year, as they completed an incredible comeback against Wales.
However, the performances of yesteryear tend to be somewhat forgotten as the world gathers once every four years to determine and for all who’s the best.
This is really all that matters in international rugby – and both players and coaches need time to prove themselves.
“At the end of the day the Rugby World Cup is the most significant event in the rugby calendar,” Mexted added.
“The problem is… the Rugby World Cup is only every four years but you’d have to say though that most successful periods of tenures are those that are consistent over a period of about four years or more.
“If you look back in history and look back at the time that a head coach ran the show with success, they often had four, five, six years at the helm.
“Chopping and changing, I don’t think is good. We’ve had a marvelous record over 100 years of about 79 per cent… that’s magnificent but you get that when you get a little bit of continuity.”
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Excellent points Mz. Because of other commitments I have just watched the game.
Interesting watching it after reading all the news reports especially in the English media. I was expecting to see a game that the ABs were very lucky to win. What I saw was a game that England showed their tactical incompetence and their inability to construct any try scoring opportunities.
They can go on deluding themselves that they were unlucky to lose ( as Borthwick said post match ) but until they stop relying on rush defence and goal kicking to win I feel they're doomed to be ranked 4 or 5 in the world.
Can't wait until the weekend to see how the Wallabies go against them
Though I dare say Walter will be hoping for an England win.
Go to commentsIF SA and NZ win then its 1,2,3 SA/NZ/IRL Otherwise as you were. This is largely irrelevant beyond bragging rights.
As I have pointed out elsewhere the practical use of the Rankings is to determine the seedings bands for the RWC draw. The draw takes place early 2026 and hopefully the rankings will be taken from then.
Important to be in the top 6, the top 12. (and likely the top 4).
This is because there are now 6 groups in the RWC 2027.
If you are in top 6 you are in Seeding Band 1. That means none of the other top 6 will be in your group.
Seeding Band 2 are teams from 7-12, who will have a top 6 team but no other 7-12 team.
After England's defeat by NZ there is clear water between NZ in 3rd, France in 4th and England in 5th. England are desperate for top4, ill come back and explain why later.
Lets look at Seeding Band 1 and 6th place. If you make 6th, no top 6 team is in your group, you are top dog. If you win your group, you won't be facing a top 6 team in your 1/8th final, you will be facing a weaker team. If you fail to make 6th place you WILL have a top 6 team in your group and if you don't win your group you WILL (probably) meet a top 6 in the 1/8 final. That's massive.
Its Argentina holding 6th now. Assuming England hold 5th, then its a 4 horse race for 6th. Argentina, Scotland, Italy and ...Australia. (ranked 6,7,8,9)
Australia play the Lions in NH summer 2025 they are running out of time to get up to 6th for their own RWC. They MUST make a move now. They must beat Wales and they really must beat Scotland to gain points and take points off them. Could they surprise England or Ireland? England may be the better bet but Schmidt knows Ireland so well having masterminded their downfall in France.
Another one to watch is Italy V Argentina. Italy are ambitious and they will want to start pushing the likes of Argentina. If they win this they are still in the hunt. Well worth a watch either way.
Top4: I think the top 6 will be seeded, all the way through from the draw. If thats the case then the top 4 will be seeded to avoid each other until the semi. Good for more certainty around ticket sales etc. That's a possible reason why England want in there. You're not in there you are hitting a top 4 team in a QF. That's an extra 50:50 match you can do without and avoid by being top 4.
Lets look at what Seeding bands might look like with todays rankings:
Seeding Band 1
IRE/SA/NZ/FRA/ENG/ARG
Seeding Band 2
SCO/ITA/AUS/FIJ/WAL/GEO
Sample Aussie strongest pool opponent and 1/8th final opponent if in top 6
Strongest pool opponent: FIJI
1/8 final opponent GEORGIA
Prognosis: advance to 1/4 and potentially beyond
Sample Aussie strongest pool opponent and 1/8th final opponent if NOT in top 6
Strongest pool opponent: SOUTH AFRICA
1/8 final opponent NEW ZEALAND
Prognosis: You know the prognosis
I am pretty sure this is not lost on Joe Schmidt?
Keep in mind when enjoying the matches.
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