Would the OE Blacks Win the Rugby Championship? A Rugby Pass Investigation
Dozens of talented New Zealand players headed overseas after the Rugby World Cup. Jamie Wall looks at whether the ex-Kiwi squad would be good enough to compete against top-tier teams in the Rugby Championship.
Last year saw the largest exodus of All Black talent overseas at any one time in the professional era. A host of big names took their talents to France in exchange for fat pay days and a chance to get away from the hyper-attentive NZ media (apart from Dan Carter).
So you’d think there must be a decent former All Black team floating around in the ranks of the Top 14, English Premiership, Japanese Top League and even Super Rugby. One that could still compete in The Rugby Championship?
Well, sort of.
Here’s a First XV of overseas-based former All Blacks:
Fullback: Charles Piutau
Wing: Zac Guildford
Centre: Conrad Smith
Second five: Ma’a Nonu
Wing: Colin Slade
First five: Dan Carter
Halfback: Alby Mathewson
Number Eight: Victor Vito*
Flanker: Adam Thomson
Flanker: Daniel Braid
Lock: Jeremy Thrush
Lock: Jarrad Hoeata
Prop: Ben Franks
Hooker: Aled de Malmanche
Prop: Jamie Mackintosh
*OK, Vito hasn’t actually left yet, but he’s not going to be playing for the All Blacks anymore.
Great looking backline, solid loosies and a lightish tight five. But definitely good enough to have a decent run against the current Rugby Championship teams?
It’s important to note that this motley group of all-time greats (Carter, Nonu, Smith), honest toilers (Thrush, Thomson) and veritable pub-quiz answers (de Melmanche) will possess the motivation they once had when pulling on the All Black jersey. Because we all know ‘Nonu’ and ‘motivation’ don’t always go in the same sentence.
But that probably wouldn’t help them against the real All Blacks, because with that tight five, they’d never get any ball. It is, however, conceivable to see them scraping in against the Wallabies, Boks and Pumas at home due to their counter-attacking ability. Another thing that will work in their favour is that fact that those teams have long since forgotten how to win in New Zealand. Slade can provide a very capable backup goal kicking option and can slot into first five if needed, while Mathewson and Thomson are still familiar with Southern Hemisphere rugby as they’re still slogging it out in Super Rugby.
Overseas though, it’s a different story. The front row is second rate and would probably even get shown up by the Wallabies. Ben Franks was (and presumably still is) a penalty dispensing machine in open play, so the deficit in threes would build up pretty quickly. In fact, set piece would be a major problem anyway and Braid’s aging legs probably would leave the other two loosies to have to do even more work. So even the Pumas would be able to overcome their historical performance anxiety against New Zealand teams.
OE Blacks Record
W vs Boks in NZ, Wallabies in NZ, at Eden Park for good measure, Pumas in NZ
L vs All Blacks (both games), Wallabies in Australia, Boks in SA, Pumas in Argentina
Projected Rugby Championship Placing: 4th, behind the All Blacks, Boks and Wallabies, but ahead of the Pumas
So maybe the player drain on the All Blacks post-RWC wasn’t actually as bad as we thought. Especially in the tight forwards, it says a lot to that the most recent ex-All Black hooker plying their trade overseas is from seven seasons ago. Out of that whole team, it’d be nice to have Piutau back, but given what we’ve seen in Super Rugby so far, there is more than enough talent to cover what has been lost lately.
Still though, I’d back the OE Blacks to beat the Lions next year.
Of course, instead of theorising about a team that’ll never play, it’d be great if the SANZAAR powers-that-be put in a side from the Pacific Islands in The Rugby Championship. But of course, we all know that’ll never happen.
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A few comments. Firstly, I am a Bok fan and it's been a golden period for us. I hope my fellow Bok fans appreciate this time and know that it cannot last forever, so soak it all in!
The other thing to mention (and this is targeted at Welsh, English and even Aussie supporters who might be feeling somewhat dejected) is that it's easy to forget that just before Rassie Erasmus took over in 2018, the Boks were ranked 7th in the world and I had given up hope we'd ever be world beaters again.
Sport is a fickle thing and Rassie and his team have managed to get right whatever little things it takes to make a mediocre team great. I initially worried his methods might be short-lived (how many times can you raise a person's commitment by talking about his family and his love of his country as a motivator), but he seems to have found a way. After winning in 2019 on what was a very simple game plan, he has taken things up ever year - amazing work which has to be applauded! (Dankie Rassie! Ons wardeer wat jy vir die ondersteuners en die land doen!) (Google translate if you don't understand Afrikaans! 😁)
I don't think people outside South Africa fully comprehend the enormity of the impact seeing black and white, English, Afrikaans and Xhosa and all the other hues playing together does for the country's sense of unity. It's pure joy and happiness.
This autumn tour has been a bit frustrating in that the Boks have won, but never all that convincingly. On the one hand, I'd like to have seen more decisive victories, BUT what Rassie has done is expose a huge number of players to test rugby, whilst also diversifying the way the Boks play (Tony Brown's influence).
This change of both style and personnel has resulted in a lack of cohesion at times and we've lost some of the control, whereas had we been playing our more traditional style, that wouldn't happen. This is partially attributable to the fact that you cannot play Tony Brown's expansive game whilst also having 3 players available at every contact point to clear the defence off the ball. I have enjoyed seeing the Boks play a more exciting, less attritional game, which is a boring, albeit effective spectacle. So, I am happy to be patient, because the end justifies the means (and I trust Rassie!). Hopefully all these players we are blooding will give us incredible options for substitutions come next year's Rugby Championship and of course, the big prize in 2027.
Last point! The game of rugby has never been as exciting as it is now. Any of Ireland, New Zealand, South Africa, France, Argentina, Scotland, England & Australia can beat one another. South Africa may be ranked #1, but I wouldn't bet my house in them beating France or New Zealand, and we saw Argentina beating both South Africa and New Zealand this year! That's wonderful for the game and makes the victories we do get all the sweeter. Each win is 100% earned. Long may it last!
Sorry for the long post! 🏉🌍
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